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    Hi All,
    We are a new dog family and have a male golden lab retriever puppy, now 18 weeks old. He is a very excitable thing, jumping up lots and also quite nippy, often using his teeth. We live on 5 acres in North NSW where there are snakes, ticks and all sorts of things. We're wanting to keep our new family member safe. Our property is not dog proof - the fence is just strings of wire.

    Before puppy came to live with us we had a dog trainer come advise us on how to prepare for it. Following her advice we fenced in about 120 cms high a large portion of our verandah and down a grassy area.

    As puppy is growing he is jumping over that fence, quite easily now. He does not stay on our property and goes to visit neighbours, who also have young children.

    We don't want him nipping others (or us) and want to keep him safe in his area, also away from snakes and things.

    It is not straight forward to simply build a higher fence.

    I'm wondering about putting in two poles with a cable, say 15 metres apart, and using a leash around the cable so he can travel back and forth, putting it near shade and water.

    Open to suggestions and advice, thanks

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    I'm not really a fan of putting a dog on a run, what is the point of having one if it will spend its life on a chain. You can fence a larger section of yard with higher mesh. You could also look at boundary fencing where he wears a collar an as he starts getting closer to the fence line the collar will zap and hopefully the dog learns to not go past it.

    It also sounds like you need to do some training with your puppy. Is he enrolled in puppy school? You can also desensitise dogs to stay away for snakes, I've heard of people doing it with a plastic snake.. how I have no idea. For ticks you can either put a tick collar or something like frontline combined with checking him over everyday including around his backside, testies, between toes etc.

    I live on acreage as well and when we first bought the house we spend a fortune getting our fencing secure so the dogs couldn't escape. Honestly nothing was to expensive when it came to keeping them and the neighbourhood safe.

    There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.

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    Unchain Your Dog.org | Install a Dog Trolley, Dog Run, Dog Cable
    Also not a fan but may be a temporary solution while you figure out how to fence the pup safely

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    Pardon but I have to ask what you were thinking of getting a dog when you cannot keep him in?

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    Sorry that was a bit harsh, the trainer should have seen that coming a mile away. You were obviously trying hard to do the right thing.

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    If he's going to visit neighbours then you don't have to worry about him attacking anyone, he's obviously a friendly social guy who just wants to be friends with everyone. My advice is just to beef up the fencing in the area you've already enhanced, then when he's an adult he will know where the boundaries of his territory are. Unless you want to tie your dog up (which isn't good for him) this isn't really something you can fix without spending a bit of money on a better fence I'm afraid.

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    My fencing to keep 4 blue heelers from straying is Mesh and starposts with a gate.
    If you are renting it can all be pulled down when you move.

    I also have snake netting as they are really bad here. Some is snake netting, some is shadecloth used as netting and some is the stuff that goes around round hay bales. Hubby also patrols the netting line with a shot gun and I do a daily inside the perimeter check. More if they are barking and something down low and not the cows. We have had vet runs before for suspected bites and once when they were visibly playing with a RBB, hence the netting. 5 snakes last year and many many signs they are around outside the back safe zone, some from near our car and the dirt driveway that goes past the house.

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    Fences are a must and one of the expenses of owning a dog. What keeps in a pup will not keep in a grown dog & as a dog grows he needs more space and wants to explore different areas.

    Nipping is usual puppy behaviour and there is many posts about what to do, have a search thru those. Puppy obedience school is also good. Daily walks are necessary to keep him stimulated and companionship with his human family to feel part of the pack.

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    They don't as adults dogs "know" the boundaries. If anything they will roam further.
    These are the only dogs in my 30 adult years with them that I have had to do a containment system. Even when I had 3 different dogs years ago they didn't wander away, choosing to just be around the house on the 500 acre farm.

    These though pack and are gone for hours. With stock nearby a farmer is well within their rights to shoot and ask questions, want compensation for losses, later.

    I certainly would not like a dog roaming over here from a neighbouring farm either .

    It is up to every owner to contain their dogs and be responsible for their safety as well as the safety of others.
    I don't however see the need if dogs on a farm don't roam.
    We just need to know their habits and act accordingly.
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    For snakes:
    i keep sheds checked regularly. Keep stored equipment surrounded by snake mesh. keep the grass low on my property, but i also mow a perimeter outside my property, as its wetlands and snake haven out there.

    I was also told a tip from snake man here for grassed public area access grounds: dont phone council and say you have a snake issue. Snakes are a protected species, phone and say you have seen teenage boys fire setting. They will come mow the grass short. Sounds weird, but it actually works! Within 24 hrs of either myself, or my dog walking buddy phoning, they mowed the grass real short. Lots of litigation for councils that don't control fire fodder if a fire breaks out.

    When i was looking at rural properties and fencing. The E containment system was cheapest. Also portable.
    If you have a 16 week pup that can jump a fence. There is no fence for your dog. Mine can jump from our grass, 12 feet up and over rails to get onto the deck. Yet will not, has never jumped the 2foot single piece of wire fence the surrounds our property. Go figure?
    Neither of mine roam away from the house, unless one of us are with them. This is genetic make up first and foremost, and training on that baseline to get to the 'wont roam' scenario. Oh and desexed helps.

    good luck and let us know what you decide on and how it goes.
    Last edited by bernie; 10-02-2012 at 06:37 AM.

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