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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    If i could get clothes made in oz - I would.
    Ethical shopping is becoming quite a topic:
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    The issue of dog (and cat) fur from China is neither new nor resolved. Only last year the humane society raised that many cheap uggboots labelled as 'wool' clearly were made of dogfur. I think if you 'spend less' for whatever, this is what you get. Sadly spending more doesn't always get you more... as illustrated by Myers last year when they had to clear a number of products off their shelves because they were made of dogfur.

    Australian clothes and ugg boots using fur from racoon dogs skinned alive in China (latest news) | The Wall
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    OMG, i immediately examined my boots reading that!

    I think its sheepskin. Smelt like it when new.

    I took a 'trip into the city' last month and visited this famous myers, and that posh place next door, David Jones. There were fur stoles, jackets all over the place. I thought my mum's generation were the last to wear fur! Certainly my generation wouldn't be seen in that. Afghan coats, a personal fave of mine, became taboo.
    Seems like fashion has come full circle, only this time the kids arent exposed to a balancing propaganda of vegetarian/pro animal rights, hippie crowd peers.

    I was also hearing BSL, all being the same. And when you put it that way.... i liked that. Very easy on the ear.

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    I get my ugg boots from local makers (artemis fur aka aussieland ugg and bluesheep). Clearly wool - you can see or buy the sheep skin they start with if you want. The current boots came from a place that sells all sorts of fur but I think it's all locally sourced. They were around the $100 mark.

    Why is it legal to import dog skin? Is it legal? Why aren't customs doing something about it?

    Tho I'm quite ok with Australian Feral Fur skin, Rabbit skin, sheep skin, beef skin... and NZ feral possum skin. They just need some way of tagging it with country of origin that can't easily be forged. Eg a bit of unique aussie dirt.

    I have sheep skin car seat covers. I figure I eat that much lamb - there should be skins to use.

    will have a look at the ethical shopping links. I wish there was also ethical banks links - ones that don't sponsor the import of dog fur products and gambling houses.

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    I don't have an interest in fur or anything but about China... I've seen what they do to dogs there as well.. they capture dogs on the street, stuff them all in a cage all squished up together, smack their head against something hard and start doing you know what ... very sad. I'm not racist or anything (infact I've had a few asian girlfriends in the past) but over there in China and other parts of Asia, they just don't seem to have any feelings towards animals. They kill them without any sort of feeling it seems. I absolutely hate animal cruelty or anything similar. Especially with dogs. China also still eat dog meat in some parts.. not just China too, many parts of Asia. They still do it but they're slowly trying to crack down on it. I don't care if the dog is wild, it still breaks my heart to know this happens in the world

    Also I have seen things happen in China like cars running over young kids and people just keep walking and ignore to help. Apparently they do it because they can get blamed and taken to jail if they try to help and someone catches them.. not sure. That place might be nice to visit but it kind of scares me.
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    Fur farming and China and all that that aside... I honestly can't see the problem with eating dogs. Meat is meat whether or not we love the animal. Same could be said on horse forums and reptile forums and all that. I don't think it's something that should be held against the counties like it somehow makes them uncivilised (other practices aside, of course, I know many asian countries have a very low ethical standard for animals).

    A lot of fur and skin farming practices are disgusting. I know not too long ago I found out about some skin farmers in Indonesia that filled up the snakes there with water and let them hang bloated for a few days because it made them easier to skin (allegedly, but I don't doubt it would happen and disgusting regardless). So many farms are just horrible. Factory farming, skin/fur farms. I also dislike the practices of bigger dairy farms and I really dislike anything to do with veal. Some things are just ridiculously cruel (for "taste", mind you).

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    I can't watch it but i have seen similar stuff before and it made me sick. I hate china and i would probably never go there.
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    Hi silvershadowwolf24, although i dislike the idea of dogs being "farmed", whether for meat or fur, i pretty much agree with you. My issue was with regards the manner in which it was done. I mean how hard is it to spend 2c on a bullet to kill the dog before it's skinned? Skinning any animal alive is barbaric IMO

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    Not touching that video with a 90 foot pole, I won't sleep for a week.

    My friends and I hired out a horror movie one night, we put it on and there was a PETA warning at the start, it showed dogs being skinned alive, real footage... Well, I threw up and needed to stay up all night.

    Humans disgust me.

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    Silvershadow, I think most people have fewer issues with the fact that dogs are being eaten, rahter than how they're being killed. And I also agree that this compassion should extend to animals in Australia as well - even if they're not labelled 'pets'. Not sure if someone saw the footage of the piggery a while ago? Common practises like pigs being castrated without pain relief etc. are IMO equally barbaric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crested_Love View Post
    Not touching that video with a 90 foot pole, I won't sleep for a week.

    My friends and I hired out a horror movie one night, we put it on and there was a PETA warning at the start, it showed dogs being skinned alive, real footage... Well, I threw up and needed to stay up all night.

    Humans disgust me.
    jesus, what kind of horror movies do you watch! lol I'll stick to my slasher flicks I think.

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