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    The kibble in ball thrower is an awesome idea, bernie! Will try that.

    And yes, both of the dogs I've had had a 'point of no return' with something. With Luna it was the urge to put other dogs in their place - could call her off if I anticipated it, but once she'd started she was deaf to anything. With Banjo it is once she starts jumping up, she doesn't seem to hear me anymore.

    I've had to prevent Banjo from going up to kids altogether, even though I would be fine with her saying hello to some if only she could do it in an acceptable way! But those are the limitations of LAT indeed. It's a perfect method if you don't want them to react to something altogether, but there is no room for interpretation...

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    Most training only works when the dog is in the right frame of mind. If it goes over the top (Too excited to respond), they're not going to learn anything. Even if you traumatise the dog by thumping it for jumping.

    If you know some friends (triggers) are coming to the front door - you start with the dog out the back... or what I do is (have to warn the friends first), is I get them to back off from the door and dog only gets to go out if she can act calmly... and she only gets to say hello if she can keep her paws on the ground. Standing on the lead so she can't jump is good. Holding the collar can (and will) engage something called "the opposition reflex" and rev your dog up - until she is way too excited to hear you.

    But sometimes - I get her in the nice calm sit and as soon as I open the door she gets up - so I shut it again. A few repetitions of that until she can stay sitting at the front door. If she can't do that, it's into a room or crate where she can't get to the guest.

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    Thanks Hya. We are doing ok with the training. I was just wondering why she does not seem to feel the urge to jump up apparently when I'm not nearby. It's a good thing, I just find it puzzling.

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    evil hound here - scared the bjsh out of the gas meter reader... back door was open. As soon as he opened the front gate - she was round at the side gate waiting for him. Barking her head off. So smart man came and rang the door bell. And before I could open the door, she was there too, so I put the lead I keep next to the front door on her... and had a chat about not letting her eat him.

    Trouble is - it's a job where they have to run - got 30 seconds a meter - in a burb where the distance from the front gate to the meter on the back fence is about 40 metres... with a dog (hungry shark) on the way. Hmm, could make a phone app game of that... the meter reader...

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    I'd download that app...

    And I only realised after I posted that your previous comment was in response to the LAT vs training appropriate behaviour. But I use LAT mainly when she's off leash and there are strangers about. And I can't ask total strangers to participate in our training... So those situations are kinda lost as teachable moments. But that's ok. At home anyone coming to the door will become a willing or unwilling participant! Though sometimes I'm taken by surprise and react a bit erratically. I am more confident that we will get there in the end though.

    I am going to try walk away next time a neighbour or friend comes in to see if that has an effect on Banjo's jumping.

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    I have to do most of my LAT training on lead... Because that's the only way I can control the environment (distance to trigger) and how excited she gets. If she's able to close the distance - we're pretty much stuffed...

    I did get her to come back to me twice from my brother's "killer attack" cat... and then my brother made a mistake - and suggested I let her go again instead of putting her on lead and doing some LAT with food. I made the mistake of believing him when he said the cat would not run... cos I was 99% confident my dog would keep a safe distance and just bark a lot - and if the cat stayed still, my dog would get over herself and lose interest.

    The cat ran. The dog chased. What fun. Nobody got hurt but it undid a lot of training.

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