Page 2 of 5 FirstFirst 1234 ... LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 41

Thread: Why does he do it ??

  1. #11

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean View Post
    Yep, i'll try that for sure. I havnt been using his check chain at all recently...he walks on a loose lead just fine so we retired it.
    If he dosnt stay on the matt maybe i can get the kids to wrestle in front of him and check him if he dosnt respond to just 'no'...??? Just a thought
    Yep, you could use the chain, but you should only need it for the first few times until you've communicated what he needs to do. You'll need to repeat the action of saying "NO" and taking him back to his blanket until his brain makes the connection between kids playing and him needing to sit there. Once he's sitting on the blanket (whether you've forced him to or not), give him praise and treats so he understands it's a good place and he's a good dog for sitting here. He'll soon learn that going to sit on his blanket earns him positive attention.

    Once he understands this, just a "NO" and a gesture towards the blanket should suffice. A command would also be a good idea, we say "ON YOUR MAT". That way you have the communication "NO" which tells him he's currently doing the wrong thing, and "ON YOUR MAT" which communicates what he's supposed to be doing. Then "GOOD DOG" once he sits on his spot.
    Last edited by Mosh; 08-29-2012 at 05:29 PM.

  2. #12
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Bunbury
    Posts
    1,378

    Default

    I have no problem with the alpha thing as long as it is about assertive behaviour by the biped and clear leadership.
    It can be done badly and the dog is damaged I think if it is aggressive and rough.
    Dogs need to know who is in charge , they need boundaries for their behaviour that are developed around the family they belong to.

  3. #13
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Adelaide
    Posts
    12,596

    Default

    Yes it is extremely dominating behaviour.
    Actually I think the opposite - this is something the Omega dog (or de-fuser or peace maker) does. Ie the one at the bottom of the pack - takes the risk of being ripped to pieces to break up a (perceived) fight. And because the Omega dog is no threat - the other dogs usually stop. I've seen Frosty do it quite a few times, with her best friends.

    If it's a real fight between dogs she doesn't know - she prefers the role of "cheer leader" or "Whistle blower" - the one that runs around the fight yelling their head off "Fight fight fight"...

    CanineSquad - Shaun Ellis 2

    The above is a link to an interview with Shaun Ellis - who lived with a wolf pack for a year, eating what they ate and eventually hunting with them. Jodi Picoult described some of his work in Convesrations with Richard Fidler a few weeks ago - as part of her reseach for her book "lone wolf". The wolf stuff is about a quarter the way in.
    Jodi Picoult - ABC Conversations with Richard Fidler - Australian Broadcasting Corporation

    And if you want to read the same stuff -
    http://jodipicoult.com/lone-wolf.html
    Last edited by Hyacinth; 08-29-2012 at 07:53 PM.

  4. #14
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Bundaberg QLD
    Posts
    3,301

    Default

    Thanks Hya....very interesting.

    So if thats the case i assume it would be wrong to try and correct his behaviour ?? and just stop our behaviour (playfighting) when he does step in ??.

    He dosnt show any other form of dominance towards me at all, only when he breaks up or playfighting. Sure , i can stir him up to a point where we are actually play fighting ourselves (me and Mojo) but i can stop him instantly and it's not somthing we do often, infact very rarely and never when anyone else is around.

    Maybe i'm better of just putting him outside or playfight with the kids somwhere he cant see us ?? I'd hate to actually discipline him as such if he is just been a peacemaker.

    This is a little more complex than i first thought....i'm a vey simple type of bloke, who dosnt tend to look to hard into much at all......i'mk thinking it might be easier to just stop my behaviour in front of him in case i'm making a mistake.....he is after all still a very young dog.
    But i dont want him to think he's top dog either...just incase he gets worse and dose somthing that could hurt someone. Hmmm....


    Quote Originally Posted by reyzor View Post
    Education is important, but big biceps are more importanter ...
    DONT SIC YOUR DOGMA ON ME !

  5. #15
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Sunshine Coast
    Posts
    295

    Default

    This reminds me a little of my sisters cat... This cat is Maxi's best friend except for this one scarry day!

    My sister was minding my brothers dog, Maxi and this dog were playing a wrestling game when the cat approached them eyes big and glowing hair standing on end and then it was on. Cat belted dog, Maxi ran away cat chased him caught him and belted him a good one. Don't think Maxi realized it was his best-mate belting him up as this cat looked pure evil.

    After the cat was chased off to go back to normal size, and visiting dog laying on his bed. Maxi helped to get over the shock of his first hiding. Cat and Maxi again played but if the visiting dog even looked at Maxi the cat's eyes started to glow evil.

    Putting it down to cat being protective of Maxi but at the same time dispensing a wake up to yourself tap to Maxi at the same time.

    Think Mojo is being protective but in a much gentler way than my sisters bloody cat
    “All his life he tried to be a good person. Many times, however, he failed. For after all, he was only human. He wasn't a dog.”
    ― Charles M. Schulz

  6. #16

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Actually I think the opposite - this is something the Omega dog (or de-fuser or peace maker) does. Ie the one at the bottom of the pack - takes the risk of being ripped to pieces to break up a (perceived) fight. And because the Omega dog is no threat - the other dogs usually stop. I've seen Frosty do it quite a few times, with her best friends.
    But it is not a real fight. Nobody is getting hurt, they are having fun and engaging in normal human behaviour. It is not acceptable for a dog to forcefully interfere.

    Mojo is capable of learning that playfighting is ok, and that he does not need to intervene. Most dogs are happy to sit and watch, or join in the play. Letting the dog dictate what happens in the house is admitting defeat, in my opinion.

  7. #17
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    melbourne australia
    Posts
    3,082

    Default

    "i was definently top dog when we did training"

    In a nutshell, you answered your own query.

  8. #18
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Adelaide
    Posts
    12,596

    Default

    Sean

    What do you want him to do? It may be he just wants to join in. It may be he wants to break the fight up cos he's worried... but if you both who were wrestling - then wrestle with him a bit - you'd encourage it maybe. You'd also re-assure him.

    If you don't want him to join in - you're going to need to teach him "go to mat" or whatever you do want him to do instead.

    And maybe watch what kind of noise you're both making when you're wrestling - because that might be the trigger for him to break things up.

    @Mosh
    It's never a real fight when Frosty breaks it up either. But I agree - Sean needs to tell his dog to do what he wants the dog to do instead.

  9. #19
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Southern NSW
    Posts
    3,784

    Default

    I have to go with Hya here (again ).........My Katy does this, she is no Alpha dog, she is the Omega and always worries, but also the forever Peacemaker........It needs to be communicated that you do not want or need this behaviour, but it is not always done to dominate by the dog. So many lovely dogs are ruined by us the people playing the Alpha role....We should be more into Leadership. When I get home, I will write some of my ways of dealing with this in a leadership role. Giving Mojo the confience that you are OK and he does not have to worry about you guys and interefere.
    Pets are forever

  10. #20
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Rural NSW
    Posts
    5,967

    Default

    I am a great fan of the quick fix. With my last dog I put him outside when the kids wanted to play fight etc. No more problems. That worked very well for many years before Shads died.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •