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    Default Young dog/Old dog

    I am visiting my sister who has an elderly dog. When we first visited when Maggie was small Tilly was irritable but reliable and only grumbled when Maggy was very pushy, fine learning for Mags. The next visit much the same except Maggie was careful of her.

    This visit with Maggie nearly 6 months old is proving problematic as Maggie has asserted herself as top dog and the old girl is suddenly intimidated by my stroppy pooch.
    She won't come in and eat if Maggie is around and my pup is the problem.

    I realise it is probably normal pack behaviour for the strong one to assert dominance, BUT, this is not my home and as far as Tilly's owner is concerned it is her house and she rules.
    Any advice for handling this, I am keeping Maggie away when the old one eats but the stress level is obviously still there.
    This will be a real problem if it continues.

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    normal pack behaviour for the strong one to assert dominance
    No it's normal for rude untrained puppies tho.

    Any naughty behaviour at friends places - and my dog goes on lead as a first restriction. If she continues to be obnoxious - she goes in the car (weather permitting) or a crate somewhere sheltered and out of ear shot.

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    farrview, your sister is right - her house, her rules, and her dog is top in her house, no matter what, which means {to me} that your doglet will need to be on leash at all times until her manners improve around this older dog... it will also demonstrate to her that you are taking her dog's feelings very seriously, as well as teaching the pup some manners. As much as I personally don't like crates, in this instance, if they have to be alone together whilst you are both at work, then the pup should be crated, not the older dog.

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    I am in agreement, it is her house, her rules. Not a surburban environment and no crate with us and keeping the energiser on a leash for any length of time is unrealistic. The old one has her spots around the property and goes to one of those during the day, I kept the pup with us last night.
    I think I was caught out by the astonishing rudeness of my pup as she was hesitant last time and accepted reproof from the old dog.
    Oh well my cocky little biddy will have to learn, will firmly growl at any further rudeness. I will take her for a run at the beach and lock her in the garage when we go out for lunch, that way she will be safe and so will Tilly!

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    Agree with everyone else. Just a pushy and rude wee kid.

    Others may have had a different experience but I have personally never seen a 6 month old pup pushing for dominance, usually it starts a bit older IMO, i.e. sexual maturity

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    Well I am home now and I basically kept the puppy on leash with me while the old dog fed.
    Unfortunately although she improved the old girl got stressed when she was around so I had to be vigilant and keep hold of her when the older dog was going in or out.
    She ended up mainly overenthusiastic I think and did show some restraint towards the end when we told her to sit and be polite.
    Good learning for the pup but I felt bad old Tilly was stressed. It is a tricky one as I think my sister was thinking of getting a second dog while this old sweetie was still with us, doesn't look like a good idea to me. Although my pup is unusually enthusiastic.
    Thanks for the advice.

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    Some puppies are more overly enthusiastic than others, shame old Tilly just wouldn't give a stern telling off. Also sometimes given time the novelty wears off when they realise the old dog won't engage with them.

    I have a 5 month old pup, when he first arrived my older girls wouldn't engage him at all and would leave, over time they have gone back to their usual routine and he leaves them alone. My two year old bitch I think is now wishing she took a similar approach, she played with him when he first arrived and now that he's 5 months old and bigger than her he bugs her quite a bit, when she'd rather be sunbaking.

    Whereas the older girls are left alone by him. They just knew not to engage this one. When the two year old tells him off he just thinks it's funny.

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