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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Not in Australia. The manner has to be considered "humane" and not in violation of the various animal welfare acts around the country. So drowning is out. Starving to death is also out.

    The ideal is lethal injection of anaesthetic (or equivalent) by a qualified vet. But shooting in the head is still allowed - as per a recent problem with a hunter valley council where they were shooting dogs at the dump by way of "humane" killing. About as much fun as what they do overseas to our live animal exports.
    Exactly - which is why her arguments will ultimately fail - I simply can't rationally argue that she would be able to get these puppies posthumously declared Livestock as the puppies could then only be sold as Livestock to other people who trade in Livestock - ruling out the general public {that's my understanding of this situation on a very base level} - so if she sold on one Livestock animal to a member of the general public as an animal for use as a pet, then the Domestic Animal Act comes back into play - a very, very messy legal minefield.

    If one attends a livestock auction or general saleyard and purchases a cow, whether or not you intend to run this cow on acreage as mother nature intended, or bring it into the kitchen in order to provide milk on tap to your family, the Livestock Animals Act still applies - domestic situation or no. Not the same when you flip it to apply it to a dog sold as Livestock with the sole expectation that it will become a pet for a regular Joe and Jane family - domestic situation would take precendence as dogs are considered domestic animals - you would never be able to have the Domestic Animals Act applied to a cow, no matter how much you loved it, and called it Millie.

    Hopefully this will be why her arguments will ultimately fail - but she will definitely tie up at least one Court room for many a year arguing her points - and by the time her appeals are all heard, the system will be so sick of her that they will settle, she will receive a penalty far removed from the heinous reality of her actions, and she will move straight on to her next round, probably without even a criminal conviction to her name.

    It would be nice if she could be classified as a vexacious litigant now, to head her off at the pass.

    Then we could drown her ass to measure exactly how humane it is.

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    If she wants her dogs classified as livestock, she will fall in a heap abiding by the rules for slaughtering livestock.

    There are mink farms in the US, which would be the closest type of livestock, being carnivores. Under the guidelines of the American Veterinary Medical Association the ONLY permitted method of euthanasia for mink is "is controlled atmosphere euthanasia using bottled gas, either pure carbon monoxide or carbon dioxide."

    Most US states have already made different legislation for the "production" of domestic pets and the production of livestock. This idiot wants to have her cake and eat it too - if she wants her "produce" classified as livestock, then she would lose most of her market as most urban areas do not permit livestock to be kept within town limits. She has buckley's chance of success in trying to twist those laws.

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    Exactly - but I suspect she doesn't intend to win, just tie up the legal system with appeals until it's tired of her and just wants it all to go away - with the end game being purely to escape with little of no consequences for her actions.

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