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    I happened to be taking my dog out for a walk today as was enjoying the walk, all of a sudden I came across 2 guys who had a dog that was being unruly and dragging its owner along with it. I firstly looked away as the owner looked like someone you cannot mess with. I walked on further and then he kept on staring at me.

    After a walk the same way back I bumped into him again and this time he was sitting on the bench and looked a bit miserable, I smiled at him and he smiled back. To strike a conversation I asked the question "Tired are We" In which he responded yeah this dog is really beginning to kill my soul, I decided to sit down with him at the time his dog continued to be unruly and he just allowed it to do as it pleased. During the time my dog was at a safe distance behaving well.

    I then told the guy that he could teach his dog to be obedient and he said he has tried but his dog does not obey him. I said that I can see based on the way your dog was dragging you along during your walk. I then suggested that he can train his dog to become obedient and he said that he has already tried a lot of things that do not seem to work and he is not going to try anything else as it is just a waste of time.

    Now I thought to myself, with an attitude like that you will never get results when you train your dog as you have to believe in the training itself and have the confidence to teach your dog.

    If you knew someone like that would you offer your free time to help them train their dog or point them in the right direction? In my opinion people like that do not tend to get the results of training their dogs and helping out is usually a waste of time as they never do what they are told to.

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    I know what you mean. I know a lot of blokes like that, some i even call mates. But at the end of the day it's not about helping them it's about helping the dog. If old mate is anything like the guys i know he'll probably just leave his dog in the backyard from now on and then wonder why it digs up his garden and barks all day.
    In saying that though, i dont like helping people who dont help themselves so it's a tuff situation. I now know a good trainer who is also fairly cheap ($50 for one night a week for 6 weeks) so i'd just pass on thier info and hope he took my advice.


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    Maybe he doesnt know where to start........I would help if I could........Im a soft touch tho

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    Many times I've tried to help and failed.

    Sometimes I succeed...

    Face to face, most people who want to know - ask. Some people ask and then say "I can't do that" eg treats or stop starting to prevent pulling. I really can't help the ones not willing to try anything.

    And the ones doing all the wrong things - and don't ask for help... there's not a lot of point offering. A lot say mine looks so well behaved and all I can say is "she wasn't always like that" - I had to learn a lot about dog training but it's not hard to do.

    I think that's where a lot of training-people-to-train-dogs-instructors go wrong. They say it's a lot of hard work. It isn't hard, it's easy and quick. You can do it during the tv ads. Or have three walks of hell to have a lifetime of walks of joy. Not hard.

    And then somehow you have to convey what the person needs to know while making them pleased to hear it. Ie not feel stupid, frustrated and incompetent for failing to get something so easy.

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    I would definitely offer to help, whether or not it would be accepted would depend on the person at the end of the lead

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    Well I train dogs and I also do volunteer Instructing at Two kennel Clubs now......I think everyone should be given the opportunity to improve.........At the Kennel Clubs training is really cheap $3.00 per session and some people are just there....you teach and you give them suggestions and their dogs still tow them out and into the grounds. Mostly in the classes they are much improved. So yes i think a good trainer should give their time for free..because to me it is to the benefit of the dogs, it is all about the dogs. And if you can help a small percentage of the dogs, you have done well. And sometimes you might be just the person who makes it "click" and give the person the lightbulb moment. And all can change for the handler and dog.

    So yes I do help people for free, even at places where we meet.As long as they are wanting to learn and not offended by you offering....I do it for the dogs
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    I'd help out if I saw the guy at the park. A lot of the time people honestly think their dog is somehow different and can't be trained. All it takes is an attitude adjustment and to point out what they're doing wrong. I haven't come accross an untrainable dog so far.

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    Well I think it was lovely that you offered your time to help this man.

    But...................

    Sometimes people just become so overwhelmed with their situation and have tried and tried and seriously don't see that there is a solution. Maybe just you talking to this gentleman today may be enough for him to try again with training. He may have felt embarrassed or just having one of those days.

    Just because he didn't take you up on your offer doesn't mean you didnt give him food for thought.

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    You had the right to offer, he had the right to decline. Im good with that.

    Edited by me as bitchy comment not required. apologies.
    Last edited by bernie; 07-21-2012 at 06:05 AM.

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    It's tough when they clearly don't even understand the basics of dog training. A lot of people seem to think their dogs automatically learn English after living with them for a while. I personally would find it very satisfying to try do a couple of exercises with someone like that to show them that using the right 'language' is all it takes. But then, I'm not a dog trainer. And I'd like to have some people's kids over for a few weeks too to demonstrate what consistency and some tough love can do!

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