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    Just need some advice or reassurance that eventually it will happen!
    Maggie has great recall at home and when we are alone. If there is any distraction we might as well save our breath.
    She is OK at the beach when distracted by another dog as she sees us moving on and comes but I would rather it was because we called!
    We play hide and seek at a quiet local park to encourage her.
    I find it very annoying to be one of those people whose dogs don't always come. It is so basic. She is 4 months old and self willed but also bright. Super friendly which doesnt help.
    Last edited by farrview; 07-16-2012 at 09:51 AM.

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    She's 4 months old - you need to keep training her to come back and be firm with it - or attend obedience class.
    We had this problem between 4 to 6 months - but constant training our dog improved quite amazingly and still improving.
    Now she listen to my commands and comes back 1 to 2 go.

    Good Luck and hopefully you can attend some classes.
    m<(o.o)>m

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    We start obedience training next week. Will keep at it.

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    It all comes with consistency and lots of practice. One thing I can give you is when you do recalls, do not click the lead on and walk away from the fun things she was doing. Clip the lead on, give her a good girl cuddle and let her off again. Do that several times before the session ends. This will set her up so she does not think clicking on the lead is a bad thing.
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    I'm embarrassed to say this, but we didn't have good recall until my dog was about 14 months old. There were so many other things she'd rather be doing.

    Practice introducing distractions at home - like having someone else run around making fun squeaky noises, or having to recall past a food bowl (without food to start with) etc.

    If you have helpers available there are fun ways to increase the recall enthusiasm - something called a "restrained recall" where one of you holds the dog and the other one calls and then starts running making exciting noises - heaps of praise when dog arrives. And you can also use your helpers to mind the "distractions" eg treats and stuff. If the dog does what it is supposed to it can have a treat but otherwise, the helper prevents access to the treats - ie dog is supposed to recall without stopping to sniff for treats or invite a game. Work out what is most distracting down to what is least distracting. Start with least distracting.

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    I have an escape artist door open = freedom, then it's a case of no-recall maybe a look and then a run past. It's so dangerous, I've been trying to teach wait and open the door an continue to wait until he is invited out (on-lead), He has been waiting but as soon as he is invited out he is pulling and wanting to go. Off lead an open door just means that he can do the bolt.

    It happens so fast I don't have time to grab food or distractions when he does this, as I need to see where he runs to as there are many ways to run and lots of roads. We are extra vigilant with the doors, but when we've had visitors over (children) they have been told to make sure they watch where Maxi is and shut the door, they still have no clue even though they have been warned time and time. (2 separate times over this weekend).

    Need recommendations for a great obedience trainer Sunshine Coast, as I have no clue and I am very scared about losing Maxi to a "If Only" moment. Maxi is 11 months
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    If it is very dangerous, while you are learning to train him to a reliable recall, can you use baby gates or pens to temporarily double gate the doors?
    I know that with some layouts it is virtually impossible.

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    We usually pen him in a bathroom when we have to go out and can't take him with us. It was a case of over the weekend I was outside with a sales man and the door close, my nephew opened the door to go out and Maxi squeezed past and was off before I could even get out word or reach for him. Our hallway is narrow so I could possibly get a gate with a couple of extenders until we can get him trained. Thanks R.P I never thought to do this. Need to train him to stop coming past a certain point until he has permission to do so. He just wants to get up close and personal to however knocks on the door...

    Last night we practiced getting him to come when his name was called he did really well, sit ,wait all very well for roast chicken. Only think he became a bit excited for the chicken, need professional help to know how to train correctly. When do I know to move on to with distractions and knowing when he has got it and will do it without a food treat but a pat and good boy.
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    I have taken to wearing a bum bag when training this, its on me all day. And in it, i have various treasures, for when my allure just aint enough lol

    I'll put roasted meat leftovers in there on sunday, its stinking by friday as you can imagine. But i get my dog following me everywhere, just in case.....
    and when i have the dog following me everywhere, i then send it away from me, to catch a ball. Out of said bum bag, comes a duplicate ball, which i swap for the returned one. So i go in the back door so to speak. I have the dog heeling, then teach it to leave my side. This has worked for Pohm. But being honest. A 100% recall dog really really helps, as my pup bitch is so jealous, that getting to me before he does, is her role in life it seems.

    But with previous easily distracted dogs, they are on leash in public areas, until that recall is 100%. I use a lunging rein from horse land, as its $8 for loads of leash! Why is it horse land is so cheap, yet dog suppliers charge the earth?

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    And she is only 4 month old...you just hve to be more exiting and fun tan all the other things...Find what your dog loves and as Nev says, recall aloow to be free.recall aloow to be free and do this the whole time on walks, don't just call when you are wanting the dog........And reward, reward, reward. Whatever the dog loves best toys, play or treat
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