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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelpielover View Post
    I meant the people saying "sorryif this sounds rude" meaning they know it might sound rude to others. -.-
    Me I take it. I knew it would be interpreted by to OP as rude hence why I wrote "trying not to be blunt". People with this mentality usually just fire up as soon as you say anything that contradicts what they want to hear. A little "trying not to sound..." can get your point across while still not being nasty.

    If I just posted cold facts they would be ignored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC View Post
    Things can and do go wrong. Putting a litter on the ground is an expensive exercise that requires lots of thought, time, & money. Then after 8 weeks when it's time for them to go to their new homes, you have to hope like hell that you selected the right homes.

    Have you got a suitable place for the bitch to whelp? can you stay home and supervise her as her due date nears? can you stay at home and supervise her day and night for 3 or 4 days after they are born? can you afford the increase in food bill (quantity and quality) up to and after the puppies are born, can you afford worming, feeding, microchipping and vaccinations of the puppies, can you afford to keep them if they all do not sell? can you afford the vet bill if something goes wrong? etc etc etc.
    Nah ya just stick 'em in a box and the mum does all the work.
    Then you stick an ad in the paper and flog them.
    Simple really...

    /sarcasm

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    I dont care if I am rude but it looks like mother nature is telling you these two should not mate - take the hint and get one desexed.

    If you must have a litter, research bloodlines and find a suitable match for your bitch and try with a suitably experienced dog, even better if you can get a mentor to help you through the whole process

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    I agree with dexter here. I think you should get one of your pooches desexed. I don't think any breeder would pay to stud your male with there pooch because he has no papers etc? right?
    No one loves you like your dog does.

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    Just to answer your question OP, size is not the problem. There are innumerable cross breeds and muts that will attest to this - labradoodle is just one that comes to mind.

    What is the problem is that dogs that live together will very often not want to mate with each other.

    Having said that, I, like nearly everybody else, believe it would be irresponsible for you to mate your dogs and have puppies and I too advocate you should have both animals speutered.
    Nev Allen
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    Quote Originally Posted by wonderbite View Post
    how do those questions help me? in my problem with my dogs? no i do not have people lined up for them to buy pups i just would like my dogs to have pups both are vet checked and given the okay to breed and i love my furry babys and would love my furry baby to be a baby mama and plus if a female dog dosnt have a litter and not get desex it causes health problems in the future
    Hi, you have been given some sound advice. I have a dog that came from outwardly healthy parents. What I didnt know was that there was a genetic condition waiting to pounce and my pup and other pups in that litter ended up with severe elbow dysplasia.

    The breeder didnt screen for this and I got caught.

    Another friend had to euthaniase their dog with a genetic eye condition PRA that would have been easily tested for in the parents had it been done. 2 outwardly normal parents were each carrying a recessive gene that combined in the pup. If you dont understand what I am talking about then you shouldnt breed untill you do.

    This has nothing to do with vet checking it has to do with genetic screeing and taking xrays of the parents hip and elbows or whatever is recommended for the genetic conditions that breed is prone to.

    I have had numerous bitches that I have never bred and they have lived up to 17 years with no ill effects from not being bred, so that is a myth that they need pups.

    Try and let common sense overule your emotions and if you are set on breeding, then do your homework and learn all the facts that you need to know before you start. This will demonstrate that you really love your dogs and the breed.

    I also know of someone whose apparently healthy bitch had major complications and need an emegency ceaser. It cost a bucket load of money to save the bitch and he hadnt expected it.
    Last edited by Kalacreek; 07-07-2012 at 02:25 PM.

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    Please don't take offense from what everyone is saying - many of the people here have had first hand experience in shelters and the like and so have seen what the direct consequences of breeding animals can be. They're only saying it because they love dogs and they have seen dogs suffer and they want to do what they can to reduce the problem (which all starts with too many puppies being born). Your dogs may very well be exceptional beyond most of the other pomeranians out there but these are things you can prove. Have them health tested - you can attract more buyers by being able to present health certificates etc. Go to a dog show and have a look - see anything you like? If so, you know that whilst you may love your dog and want to replace them when they go, you can find great new dogs out there which people have devoted their whole lives (and incomes) to creating.

    The second thing is, dogs having puppies is not fun. Let's say best case scenario, your bitch conceives naturally and doesn't need a caesarian or anything (unfortunately pomeranians are a breed that needs assistance in this area more often than a lot of other breeds but let's say you beat the odds), you then have a litter of puppies to look after until they are 8 weeks old. Have you seen what they do to people's houses? There's a reason that people tried to sell their puppies before 8 weeks and it's not because it's best for the dog, they do it because they can't stand having the puppies around anymore. They make a lot of mess, eat a lot, crap a lot - anywhere and everywhere and need a lot of attention and money. You need to worm them, vaccinate them, vet check them, feed them, wash them, deflea etc. It's virtually a full-time job.

    There are always so many puppies for sale everywhere. You want owners lined up because you don't want to just have to sell them to anyone willing to pay because you can't afford/stand to keep them anymore - your dogs deserve better than that.

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    Where on earth is the thread where the owner had so many problems, when she just wanted her bitch to have pups and had to have a caesarean, mastitis I think too?
    She documented it all so future people who wanted to may think twice?

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    Here: http://www.dogforum.com.au/general-d...may-arise.html

    Liss had numerous probmes with both her bitch and pups. These problems are not uncommon. The upshot was that she nearly lost her precious girl several times. She did lose a couple of pups and had to largely hand raise them - a 24/7 job if ever there was one.

    She spent all their savings and had to take out a loan to pay for the vetwork needed to save her girl.

    Liss and her family are lovely lovely people, but they had no idea what they were getting themselves into by allowing their precious pet girl to have just one litter...

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    Thank you, Natty.
    You were crucial with your mentoring all through it.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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