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    I really think you should make a dog run outside if you are not willing to crate train him. Like you said he is only alone like five hours tops. Dog run with a bungee rope and toy tied to a tree maybe? I have seen people suggest that on here alot. I reckon it's a good idea. Make sure you have all good things he can chew in his run when you're not there. I've also seen people say cut up pieces of rubber pipe is good for dogs to chew? and they last a while. Honestly think you should consider this.
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    I use crates all the time as I show, but I wouldn't crate a dog for 5 hours. However I would and do use a dog run. Naturally I have to with entire dogs. Because I have the room my dog run is the size of a double garage. Part of it is paved, part is dirt with large bolders. It has kennels in there, a couple are wood and one is metal. For your dog I'd do as we did and make a home made metal one (colour bond). The entire run has a roof with insulation under it.

    In summer I often find the Gordon in there by her own choice because it's cool.

    When we go to bed all dogs are put in there. They love it. They are given a treat each evening as they enter. So they are in there from about 10:30pm to 6:30am. I rarely have to clean it as they toilet before going into the run & first thing in the morning much the same as a crated dog. We built it out of weldmesh and timber with chicken wire along the bottom to prevent matings thru the weldmesh. They can still see what's going on around them, run around in there etc. Much better than locking them in the house where I expect them to behave.

    Dog runs etc aren't cruel if they are going to save your sanity and make you less anxious about what you might face when you get home. Nothing makes a dog more anxious than waiting for an owner to come home who is bracing themselves for destruction.

    I'm also assuming that you've checked his mouth and gums and there is no medical reason for the chewing?

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    Sorry it is all so tough right now...he does sound like a young adolescent having fun.

    Personally I would spend some money on a real nice outdoor run, with some space and a sand-pit in the run........Some dogs do need to be contained. We have had several rescues through that were destructo dogs, but not anxious at all...though him following you around does sound a bit anxious

    Our Training run has a 12x12 foot run, with a small room attached. All our dogs are quite happy in it and it is safe. We have put the sand pit in, because we bury stuff in it for our new dogs, to give them some long-tern entertainment.

    I think it is also important to change a few thing if you do think it comes form anxiety..Like some have said hard to judge over the net. I like to see what dogs do when the owner leaves and such......
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    typing at the same time as MAC
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    I've just seen his age. It's a horrible age. Bit like a teenager. But they do come good.

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    Have you ever had a rescue dog before?

    I rescued a dog back in 2003. A male cattle dog with a suitcase load of issues and he chewed and chewed and chewed. He had to have a galvanised water bucket cause we would come home from work and a plastic bucket would be chewed to bits.

    I ended up getting a guy to come and see us (The Pawman) in Brisbane. He has trained airforce and police dogs and explained that chewing is something that comes with anxiety and most rescue dogs have anxiety and that the best remedy was to

    1. Remove all chewable items from the dogs area and reintroduce them one at a time (we had an entertainment area with nothing it it)
    2. Get a crate and leave the door open so the dog can go in when they feel anxious
    3. Don't make a fuss when you leave

    We have a normal suburban block and Grant said that Angus would have been feeling overwhelmed at the size of what he had to look after and that if they have a kennel or crate they will retreat to this when the anxious feeling comes.

    The best thing I ever did though was leave a radio on when I went out and that way Angus seemed to think someone was home and wouldnt get so anxious.

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    I have a Destructo-dog. Villain can-and will- chew ANYTHING. I once swept the splinters of an entire three seated couch into the wheelie bin. There was that little of substance left. He achieved this feat in an hour or so. And he did it more than once! He's 4 now, calm, confident, well trained, balanced.... And still chews like a maniac.

    I've taken to buying quite inexpensive puppy playpens and putting them up to block off things I don't want chewed- like the outdoor furniture. They simply get tied on to anything solid.

    I've found that with some dogs, the bigger the area you give them, the more unsure they are what they are supposed to 'do'. Yet, when either V or F are invited into their crates (and they are crated overnight), I can see them mentally relax because they KNOW what is expected in that little, safe den- to relax. Same goes for the backyard. When I am unable to supervise, they have a smallish area- the back verandah (part of which is blocked off by a playpen) and an outdoor area on the driveway to toilet. Of course they have am and pm walks, training sessions, days where they swim at the rehab center and the treadmill. Because they have that mental and physical exercise, they are content in their controlled area whilst I'm at work.

    BG- I don't know if it is separation anxiety, mischieveousness, mouthyness... And I'm sorry I don't know any good trainers in WA. But, you can lower YOUR stress levels by controlling Hooch's access to expensive items with playpens, baby gates, chicken wire ( I know it's not pretty), lattice or crate training- and I'm quite sure he will benefit from your reduced stress.

    Good Luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunny-girl View Post
    Hooch just ate my outdoor lounge.
    After he has eaten my outdoor dining suite.
    After he has eaten my indoor dining suite.
    After he has eaten and broke my Frangipani tree.
    After he has eaten ALL the reticulation.
    After he has eaten his kennel.
    I can go on for a long time listing what he has eaten.

    I bought him 5 different dispensing toys. I got him chewing toys.
    I put out 2 bones every time we go out (usually he doesnt eat them or eats one and buries the other one).
    I feed him in the morning and at night.
    I was only out for an hour today to come home and find my gorgeous outdoor lounge chewed (foam and fabric all torn and in pieces).
    I am at a loss! He has enough stimuli. We never leave him for long.. I only work once during the week so he has to be on his own for 5 hours once a week. That's as bad as it gets for him. Other days I am only out for 1-2 hours for shopping/lunches with friends etc.

    I am sitting here crying. He is outside scared to come back home because I yelled at him and he got scared. I figure he might not "get" why I yelled at him, I hope he does but either way I just could not help it. The frustration is huge.
    We love him sooooo much. I just dont know what to do.
    Please tell me it gets better with age. Please give me advice or anything that might help....because right now I am feeling like someone knocked the air out of my chest. He has ruined my house.
    Hi BG, I feel your pain. I look after a Shar-pei/Amstaff and he is a very chewy boy. Amstaffs can be very destructive dogs and their powerful jaws can chew through solid wood.

    Unfortunately due to Hooch's age and breed there is no solution to this problem except hard work and exercise. Unless you tire him out every day, he will find other ways to expend his energy and that usually means chewing all your stuff up and pulling your washing off the line. The good news is that once you have him in an exercise routine he should ease off the chewing as he will learn to save his energy for when he needs it. An easy way of doing this is teaching him to run alongside your bike (slowly at first), and taking him for a 45 minute ride twice a day.

    It sounds tough at first but trust me, it is far preferable to the alternative and it is very good for both you and the dog. Dogs bond with people best when they are exercising.

    There is nothing wrong with putting him in a crate for 3-4 hours at a time as long as you exercise him and allow him to pee and poop first. If you cover the crate with a sheet, put his bed inside and give him a cow hoof to chew on, he will think of it as his special hidey-hole. Cured cow hooves are great for powerful dogs because they are long lasting and very smelly.
    Last edited by Mosh; 06-28-2012 at 10:07 PM.

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    greeny chew, denta stix, roo jerky, sliced pork trotter - time to demolish - about 2 minutes on a slow day.

    Cows hoof - hours of chewy fun.

    Deer antler - I worry this will break dog's teeth as it seems indestructable - even to a dog that can smash marrow bones.

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    Sorry mymatejack - I am abit overwhelmed and missed it. He gets a good long walk every day (afternoons usually). It seems the more exercise we do with him, the more active he is.
    We take him to the dog beach, he runs non stop for over an hour.. we get home and all he wants to do is play.
    Yet if it is a rainy day and we don't do much besides the normal walk he is calmer.
    Either way exercise doesn't seem to effect his chewing.
    Husband tried taking him for a bike ride but as soon as Hooch sees another dog - he is after that dog and husband comes home all bruised (lol). So he gave up on the bike rides.
    He has a kennel, he doesn't go in it. He just chewed all the corners off of it. It is nice and comfy but he doesn't seem to like being inside it.

    Dog run... it seems like such a good idea, however he will need to have his run under the patio as it is the only sheltered area (our back yard is not that big. Probably 120sqm). Unfortunately all the good chewable stuff is under the patio. Having second thoughts about bark busters now.
    Hmm maybe I can do some reading first. Confused.
    I would like to thank everyone for the kind words and the support. I think today has been a "what have I done" day for me.
    I went out tonight, got home and here he is wagging happy to see me, and I melt. Got a good cuddle with him and it reminded me why I am going through all this.

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