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    Does he ever chews things he is not supposed to when you are around?

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    Its hard to say.. he is NEVER out of my sight.. even when I go to the bathroom he follows me. So he doesn't have the chance.
    He broke the tree outside and ate the branch, husband took it away and told him off. Next day I saw him standing there chewing on the stump again.. so who knows.
    He just tasted our display unit's handles 10 minutes ago... we said no, he stopped immediately as he always does when we say NO.
    He also tasted our coffee table and we had to say no a couple of times and haven't seen him do it since..
    I dont know..

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    Maybe he was a beaver in a past life?

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    If any of mine were doing this They would be in a run as MAC suggested or on a chain whilst I was out.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    Is there a particular reason why you wouldn't crate train Hooch? I've never done it but there are so many here who swear by it. And it would be a fairly easy solution because he is never left for more than a few hours.

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    Believe me we thought of crating him. My heart just breaks thinking about him in a crate (which is a glorified cage). I totally appreciate that people do it and I know if done right it is not cruel but I rather do everything I can to get him sorted and keep him free. Again, please don't take it the wrong way because I think crating works great for dogs and people and if I have no choice and dog busters cant help.. I might be asking on this forum crating questions but it will break my heart and I will have anxiety attacks having to crate him.
    Dog buster's first session next saturday 11:30am. Please keep your fingers crossed for us. If he can't help us - no one could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunny-girl View Post
    Believe me we thought of crating him. My heart just breaks thinking about him in a crate (which is a glorified cage). I totally appreciate that people do it and I know if done right it is not cruel but I rather do everything I can to get him sorted and keep him free. Again, please don't take it the wrong way because I think crating works great for dogs and people and if I have no choice and dog busters cant help.. I might be asking on this forum crating questions but it will break my heart and I will have anxiety attacks having to crate him.
    Dog buster's first session next saturday 11:30am. Please keep your fingers crossed for us. If he can't help us - no one could.
    Ok this paragraph is quite telling for me. You are obviously very upset about what Hooch has done. He may not know why, but he knows that you are upset - dogs are very good at picking up on your emotional state. I would also hazard to guess that now when you have to leave the house, you worry that Hooch will do the wrong thing. Hooch will also pick up on this stress and it could be affecting his behaviour. Being upset, frustrated, angry - all of these things are a kind of weakness to dogs because it shows that you don't feel in control of the situation. Dogs hate this because then they feel like they have lots to worry about and lots of stress. I have seen this first hand with my dog. Now that we have been together longer, he is more forgiving and understands me better, but in the beginning, they don't know what's going on and seeing their owner upset and stressed can be quite stressful for them. Stressed animals do weird things.

    I wish I was closer to you, I would love to meet this Hooch and I can just feel your pain in your posts. I haven't really heard anything good about Bark Busters but I hope they can help.
    I have a few suggestions though. What do you do with Hooch? I would sign up to a fun training club - I think you and Hooch need to work together. I also think you need to be taking action to ensure that he can not destroy your house when you aren't there. Not just because it's expensive, but because it's dangerous for him and so long as you know there's a risk he can be playing up you are going to be stressed around him. I would recommend crating or some sort of confinement whilst you're out. Dogs sleep for 18 hours a day. They love having a 'den' or safe spot and the way many animals are calmed down (including humans) is through confinement. Sometimes you don't want more choices, you just want to feel safe and crating offers this. I didn't crate train Sammy but I do confine my dogs and it makes us all happy. I can sleep because I know puppies aren't destroying my house, they are calm and can sleep because the person who looks after them is calm and happy.

    I have to run but I will check this thread later. My heart really goes out to you - I think Hooch is beautiful and I know if you can get past these hurdles you might have a really rewarding relationship.

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    Third and final time .... what excercise is Hooch getting?

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    My neighbours got ba rk b usters in - complete FAIL.

    I think the worst part was BB ask them to act like idiots (eg yelling "BAH" - when any word for "stop/attention" will do) and so the neighbours were not willing to do what they suggested. I recently visited a BB marketing stand at Pet Expo and some of what they suggested seemed very wrong to me (too much aversive stuff and too much stuff based on "dominance" which has been debunked).

    Crate training or Dog run would solve your problems. You can train a dog to love being in their special den. Frosty drags me to hers at club training because she gets good things in there and it keeps her safe and warm when I'm setting or unsetting stuff up.

    Why Won't Dominance Die? | Association of Pet Behaviour Counsellors

    Crate Training : The Humane Society of the United States

    It takes more than physical exercise to tire a dog out. Mental exercise eg trick training helps too. If you run with your dog every night - you can just end up with a very fit and very hard to tire out dog. But if you do trick training as well... mental energy wears a dog out too.

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    I really hope the BB guy can help you. But here are some of my thoughts after your last posts.

    As I said, I am not a trainer and even if I was, I wouldn't be able to tell what is causing this behaviour from reading your posts on a forum. What if it isn't anything like separation anxiety but more like what Mac described, just an urge to chew that seems to be in his genes? In that case training is not going to make much if any difference. You will have to look at other ways to manage it and the only ones that I can come up with right now are more exercise and crating. The fact that he tries to chew when you are there might indicate that separation anxiety has nothing to do with this...

    With the crate... As I said I've never done it but I trust the people on here who do it and I know that they would not do it if it was in any way sad for the dogs. I have serious regrets about not crate training my previous dog because I am now convinced it would've greatly alleviated some of her anxiety issues. She would've been happy for any choice about where to go or what to do to be taken away from her so she could just concentrate on keeping calm.

    But even if your dog is not the type of dog that almost asks for some kind of straight-jacket technique... I can imagine that destroying things is hugely self-rewarding for a dog. If you cannot always be there with the dog, you cannot prevent him from getting that buzz and constantly being reminded that crunching through wood and tearing up foam is the best thing in the world. Confining him would allow you to break that cycle. And he may forget that buzz after a while and also get into chewing his toys and bones that would be the only things to chew on that he would have access to in the crate.

    Those are just my personal thoughts. And I know it always seems so much easier from an outside perspective...
    Last edited by Beloz; 06-28-2012 at 06:44 PM.

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