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    I'm sorry but allowing your daughter to take the trash out half naked or screaming at people on the street is not good parenting. Disabled doesn't come into it. They should be watching her better or informing the neighbors of her condition and not just letting people think they daughter is going to kill their dogs.

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    I do therapy work with my animals..........especially Katy and our horses. Sometimes even the best parent cannot "control" their disabled child...No matter what reasoning we consider the parents should use. it is not possible. Sometimes it has only been my animals that have been able to calm these moments, sometimes nothing will change those anger moments. It is not rational and no amount of management can change some of these kids...the anger and violence can be incredible, it can start and stop instantly. It is why in some situations some dogs cannot work, they need to be 100% reliable and confident.

    The way this was described it sounded like the environment was not perfect.....But I think parents put in this environment can change too. And not cope and also loose the plot. It is extremely difficult to handle these situations. I would also have stayed quiet.......Maybe at another time when there does not appear to be the anger, I might have introduced my dogs, or at least said hello. I know that one boy who came to RDA was terrified of horses and dogs.....he was a far way away all the time, never introduced, just allowed to watch, he used to scream form the distance. One day he approached Katy, tentative.......Katy dropped and just stayed in one spot. he touched her and laughed really loud. they are friends now, he gets exited when he sees her.....if we had pushed him he would have been terrified We treat terrified animals sometimes with more empathy then terrified or confused disabled children/adults.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by newfsie View Post
    I do therapy work with my animals..........especially Katy and our horses.
    Off topic I know, but Newsfie - is there anything that you don't do?? You must wear a superman emblem on your shirt?
    He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart.
    You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Dog View Post
    Off topic I know, but Newsfie - is there anything that you don't do?? You must wear a superman emblem on your shirt?
    We have been dog trainers and horse trainers for a long time...i am a social dog trainer, i want my dogs to be very friendly and social, even though I do obedience and agility just to show i can. This has led to people asking us to come to places with our dogs and horses.....this leads to doing Therapy stuff. Friendly dogs=people asking you to work with people. It is also in the breeds we have chosen, Quarter horses and Newfoundland dogs. Both when treated right love being around kids/people/the elderly. They are very alike........

    It is why i love the breeds we have chosen. We go everywhere with them and do as many things as possible with them. Anyone can do it...just take your dogs everywhere. Do everything with them and it just happens. Sometimes I wish i had more hours in the day. I only work part time at my, what used to be full time job, Radiology Nursing. Dog training is mostly wanted after hours by people and the other bits fit in when we can. the hardest thing to give time to is RDA, because the horses are the most effort to move. It has suffered to most with lack of time.

    Our horse are now old semi retired horses (all very sound and still do stock-work) that we have owned since they were 6-9 month old and they are now 10-28 years old.....that makes for very easy to get along with quiet horses, who love people and dogs. Our horses like our dogs are forever.......

    I am always out to promote horses and dogs to be seen in the best light possible. I am now 54 and have been doing this since my 20's. We both love horses and dogs, it just flows on........We really do nothing else, but horses and dogs LOL.......Good thing we both love them as we do. they come first, second and third
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    Good on you Newfsie I'm a little jealous, but I admire your commitment!
    He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart.
    You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.

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    I would love to get into therapy with my horses and dogs and did consider introducing this girl to my dogs but then I decided against it. As we live so close and she has full view of my house and yard from her house I didn't think I'd feel safe with her being comfortable with my dogs and possibly thinking she can come and visit them any time she wants and leaving a gate open etc when I'm not home. I think if her family seemed a bit more responsible it would be okay, but at the moment if she's able to walk onto the street top-less and yell abuse at people walking their dogs I don't see how her family or I would be able to keep her away from my dogs in the yard if she took a liking to them, so I think for now it is probably safest for her and them if she does have a slight fear of them and keeps her distance.

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    I think your right Kristy, it is an awkward situation as they live so close and her family have police there at times. I would be keeping my distance if i were you.

    They seem very unpredictable and you just never know what could happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy.Maree View Post
    I would love to get into therapy with my horses and dogs and did consider introducing this girl to my dogs but then I decided against it. As we live so close and she has full view of my house and yard from her house I didn't think I'd feel safe with her being comfortable with my dogs and possibly thinking she can come and visit them any time she wants and leaving a gate open etc when I'm not home. I think if her family seemed a bit more responsible it would be okay, but at the moment if she's able to walk onto the street top-less and yell abuse at people walking their dogs I don't see how her family or I would be able to keep her away from my dogs in the yard if she took a liking to them, so I think for now it is probably safest for her and them if she does have a slight fear of them and keeps her distance.
    I have to admit it is totally different living just down the road, compared to going to places where you choose to meet........The parents might just be having a difficult time too. So you need to keep everyone safe and calm. Being non-reactive is most likely best in this scenario....Hard to judge via the forum, take care.........
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    Yes I think I will just ignore it for now and put it down to her mental disability and having a bad day, if the threats continue then I will take action but in the meantime I will just forget it. Out of curiosity how do you get into therapy with horses? I'm in my final year of an equine science degree at uni and therapy is something I've really wanted to get into once I graduate but I can't seem to find information on it anywhere!!

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    We used to do Demo's with our horses....Lying them down, working them free without equipment on and having them "line-dance" with us....Hubby rides bridleless and we both ride bareback and with only a string. this again got people interested and asking questions....we would allow kids around our horses on the demo's and especially my horse Robert loves kids and always puts his head down to meet and greet. No matter how rough and silly people were. It is not what we do, it is what your horse/dog is like. We used to drive a buggy and horse for Santa to the Hospital (90's).......The dogs and Horses used to come, Robert would sort of take the lime light and my previous newfie's Abbey, Jessy and Zacky did the same. that rolled into RDA, they asked us and the dogs came along and that rolled into the dogs working. Doing Demo's with the dogs at Million Paws and Paws in the Park and working the crowd we were asked by aged concern to go to Hospitals. So we never did any formal training. I di also do quite a large part of Delta Training, but due to Annabelle i left them. they do do therapy dog Courses, they are quite good.
    You need steady, polite tolerant and non-excitable dogs. The horses are pretty much bomb proof.......We used to crack whips on ours for stock-work, carry calves and dogs. Drive, work cattle, dressage and tricks. That makes them quiet. Also allowed everyone to ride our horses, especially kids, that makes them tolerant. Some people get very precious with their animals and won't allow people to handle or touch them or only in a certain manner. We work in protecting our animals in being able to tolerate being handled in any way. We make hugging, rough petting, bad approaches, miss handling, fun and positive for our dogs especially. This is the only way I know to keep my dogs safe. And they love it now, from everyone. That is what i call social training
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