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Thread: Comparing a Mallinois to a GSD?

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    Default Comparing a Mallinois to a GSD?

    To any owners here, that know what its like to own/work/know well both of these breeds, i have a question.

    I have had 2 GSD's. The first was my OH's when we got together years ago. It was sedate, adult. Loved a walk, a bit of a digger, well behaved.
    My current dog is like a different species alltogether, it too is GSD, but working parents. And im familiar with rottie show line and working line differences, and they too are vast.

    Ive never owned, or known an owner of a mallinois. Can someone who knows both breeds tell me, how much more hectic would a mallinois be? How full on in comparison to a working GSD?
    or are they the same?

    they look magnificent, and i wonder if im capable enough to own one and train one. Is having Bernie easier, or would it be harder than this? Im not getting another dog, im just curious.
    When i read what people say GSD's are like in the home, i figure, mines not like that as he's worked daily. As leave his walk out, and the he starts stealing washing off lines etc.

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    I only know my bosses which was imported from champion working lines. Lovely dog but very full on. Not for me even if I felt like going back into serious obedience.

    Apart from anything his barking drives me nuts. Boss also has a working Rotti, he is not as full on as the Mal though he is a bit older.

    The Mal is lovely but doesn't sit still for a minute. He is worked and catches on quickly but I doubt anything could wear him out. The Rotti has the ability to stop and just chill, the Mal just keeps on going.

    Interesting enough his wife has BC's from primarily show lines, both are OC's, work the sleeve etc, they just don't have the same power. These people having been training dogs, others and their own for over 35 years now. They can get so much out of any of their dogs regardless of their background, but even they admit the imported Mal is only for highly experience people.

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    So they are barkers. I didnt know that. the full on, i did expect that.
    Im fine with nothing can wear them out. I have one of those already. thankfully you can walk a mind from a sitting position in a dog!

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    Bernie, this is the sort of question maybe you could be asking Steve at K9 Pro or visit his website. He has two Mals - 1 male and 1 female and got them as puppies.

    My understanding of them is that it is like comparing a Ferrari ( Mal ) with a BMW (Working line GSD ) !

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    I've had them for almost a decade, currently have three working line Malinois (maybe 4 tomorrow lol) Steve's pups are both Nordenstaam dogs I have old lines harking back to Dano V Stokeind, Kukay's Aras etc.

    They are completely different to German Shepherds, I have had both and I prefer the Malinois. A good working Mal can run rings literally around a working line german shepherd.

    Big drawbacks to the breed are they can become nusience barkers, epic destroyers and terrorizers very quickly and easily, most are gotten rid of under 18 months old. On the flip side they are incredibly loyal, intelligent and trainable. They are a high energy, high maintenance breed that works well with a very firm owner who will keep them motivated. They also need to be taught an off switch ... what I commonly hear is they are loud, hyperactive, spin in runs etc. They do NOT need prey building exercises, they need to be taught more to shut up, sit down and bloody relax whether they like it or not LOL We both work full time, have three at the moment and we have never had a complaint about noise, no holes in the yard etc.

    I only know my bosses which was imported from champion working lines. Lovely dog but very full on. Not for me even if I felt like going back into serious obedience.
    If you want something for agility and obedience, get a show line or something lower on the scale like a GSD. Working lines will want to play tug, have incredible prey drive and fly through the air for their bites. If you wanted to do protection or schutzhund that would be a different matter.

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    and for your viewing pleasure ...


    My eldest Wilhelmina who turned 8 years old in January ... still running around like a 2 year old




    our middle girl Rogue, coming up 2 years old, she will produce a services only litter this year/next year


    Elga on the left, Rogue on the right (Elga is her mother)


    Rogues father Mako


    Our youngest Boyan who was just on 5 months in this photo, Rogues full brother for the latest litter


    This is from a few years ago, Mina being a total bitch to my old shepherd Krueger ... Malinois are NOT delicate in the way they play and the females make you realise why they call them bitches ...

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    And here's for epic destruction ... When Mina was young she stripped out the boot of a Commodore wagon. I mean to the bare metal and pulled up the spare tyre. Just to keep herself amused while we were driving. Warning - Get a Mal from a not so good breeder who has not socialised them incredibly heavily from the moment they have opened their eyes (and by that I mean take them everywhere, yes even at that age) and be prepared for a lot of long term work. Mina is still shite in the back of the car, she HAS to shred something to get her anxiety out, but she is in a metal crate or in the front seat with me where she feels most comfortable.

    As for being great guard dogs, yes incredibly good guard dogs, start early (about 6-7 weeks) showing territoriality.

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    I really like Mals! I went with Steve to pick out both his Mal puppies, they aren't like other working breed puppies I have played with. I would probably never own a GSD but I would definitely have a Malinois one day. I still have bruises on my legs from two weeks ago when I played with the mal puppies (hard to believe they are puppies LOL)!

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    I think get some more experience and nerve with dogs before getting a working line Mal Bec, the maturity periods are a right pain in the butt LOL My fiance lives with them and he's still learning the ins and outs of not getting walked all over. Mals are really like no other breed, they are very specific in their needs and quirks which makes them one of the most difficult breeds to own if you dont have experience with them.

    Saying that if you would not own a GSD why would you then choose a Malinois? Despite being distinct breeds if you are turned off the guarding breed particulars a Malinois is probably not something to consider. Or did I miss something and they are just the next 'in' breed to get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekhbet View Post
    I think get some more experience and nerve with dogs before getting a working line Mal Bec, the maturity periods are a right pain in the butt LOL My fiance lives with them and he's still learning the ins and outs of not getting walked all over. Mals are really like no other breed, they are very specific in their needs and quirks which makes them one of the most difficult breeds to own if you dont have experience with them.

    Saying that if you would not own a GSD why would you then choose a Malinois? Despite being distinct breeds if you are turned off the guarding breed particulars a Malinois is probably not something to consider. Or did I miss something and they are just the next 'in' breed to get.
    Huh? I said I'd like to own a Mal one day. Not next. And certainly not before I had more experience handling them. I am on a waiting list for my next pup now and it's definitely not a Mal.

    There are a few reasons I would rather have a mal over a GSD. Size for one thing. I like the leaner more compact size of mals. I also haven't seen many GSDs here that impress me like Mals do. It's nothing against GSDs or because I think a mal would be "easier" just different and if I was going to get a dog like that my preference is for Mals.

    I was simply saying I like the breed and one day I would like to have one.

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