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    Newfsie, I was so enjoying your description of your little dog insisting she has the right to claim more than her share of treats.

    What I had found, tho', was that my little dominant didn't fight her battles, many times. She did let bigger dogs step in to do the defending. She's bossy, she was Entitled, (according to her), but she was far from silly. Similarly, my dogs made a lot of noise if a person approached. I would tell them quiet and they would settle. If I answered the door, my dogs would mind their own business, but if my voice changed, I knew that my cattledog bitch would be on her feet and hackled and going off, enough to put off anyone. I could quieten her easily, but she was great for unwanted religious, etc callers. I can only liken the role she took, as enforcer. At no point did she ever challenge me. She was deference personified but she could pick from my tone, (I don't mean yelling), just the difference between the welcome tone of pleasured surprise, an initial high to low to high greeting and a more curt, "Yes?" She didn't expect me to roll up my sleeves and clench my fists, she literally sprang to alert defence at the tone of my voice. If I told her to stop, she did but if I didn't, she would keep up the threats, and I could apologise and say, "Sorry... I have a very scary couple of dogs..." I was often thankful I could rely on her, when a dubious strange man or men turned up. She came across as truly frightening but was gentle and deferrent to me and I could bring in baby birds, anything, and she was told gentle and was excruciatingly so. I knew if I raised my voice or screamed, she would go from all noise and teeth, to attack. I definitely led this group but at no time did I have to fight for it.

    I don't see it as wolf pack, tooth and claw dominance. It's family, it's personal relationships, between and amongst species. I do believe we have a special relationship with dogs, though, and I do believe any dog that seems to be able to dominate people, by snapping, physical size, etc., is always truly miserable. They don't want it and I think they feel insecure and stressed. It is more about wanting more - food, attention, toys and in some dogs, not seeing why they should share - but often the squabbles are only about sharing with the family member that is most irritating. They are the squabbles. Often not I WON'T SHARE but I'M NOT SHARING WITH HER.

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    LOL....The typical 2 IC your little cattle dog..I have a larger version, my Annabelle. She has taught me control over my emotions, because if i would go off at one of the dogs, she would "sort it" not so nicely. She was easy to control, but you had to get in there before she made her effort. She is they typical "I will do anything for you" Dog......Some people call that dominant, but she is the opposite, she wants nothing more then to please me, she does it for me. But is happily controlled by me. She has taught me to be more even in my emotions, which has made me a better trainer all round....I also noticed this in our horse training, Annabelle has helped me control my emotions.
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    Your dogs Newfie sound very much like my little pack..
    Cavaliers are very sensitive and to lose your temper, will completly devestate the dog who you aim your wrath at, and the others run to you and try to calm the situation everytime.

    They certainly keep my emotions in check. When my daughter came home (again) I had to explain to her, you do not need to raise your voice or get angry if they misbehave (rarely do), you just need to quietly but in a slightly stern voice let them know you are not happy with the behaviour. It was something she had to learn, as to raise your voice to them...devestates them, and they look like they are going to die of a broken heart if yelled at....and the others ALWAYS surround me with guilty faces and wagging tales as if to say "she didnt mean it, its ok", and they will also gently disipline the offender themselves, for doing the wrong thing and upsetting mum.
    It is really sweet, there are 4 of them, they are amazingly well behaved, know the rules and rarely break them, and are such gentle and sensitive souls.

    It is really difficult at times to care for there emotional well being and well as the physical one. I had rescues labs and lab x's for example and if you are having a bad day and growl or get cranky, they just keep wagging there tail and never miss a beat, whereas the cavies would almost be scarred for life.

    They know if im not feeling well, and never leave my side, same if i am upset, they are great little watchdogs, who let me know if someone is around, but will never bite nor ever intimidate anyone.

    Sorry for the rant.....but just love these little poppets
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    Some interesting comments. I am not sure this dominance crap has any bearing on pet dogs myself.

    And I have got heaps to say but Im having a brain fart and it would come out all weird and contradictory and not make any sense so Ill come back later LOL

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