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    Default Teaching how to drop

    So we have mastered the basics, sit, stay, shake (On both paws) and leaving food near her nose and on the floor before she can eat it.

    But...

    Its not been nearly 6 months since we have started drop and stil got nothing..

    I have watched all sorts of youtube Vids and bought two training books from ebay (Mind you they are quite old) but I have had no luck.

    I really know little to nothing about dog training so Im more then likely doing the dumbest thing wrong! Im contemplating video taping me so someone can just say Dont do this or dont do that!

    Help!!!!
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    If you have seen all the video's and such........the best thing might be to get a trainer to show you how, hands on. Now I will be truly honest. I have had a bulldog or two, where i have had to take quite a bit of time teaching it to them, they are very strong in body and mind .

    I use the sitting on the ground and luring under my bent leg for little ones, but your might be past that. I will also guide some difficult dogs into it, guide into position and treat, repeat, repeat

    The other thing you can try is when your dog is lying down, tell her good drop and treat...or as you see her go into a natural drop, click and treat. or say yes and treat.

    But if you have been trying for 6 months you might need help........I can see form the pictures that she can lie down ...it will just take some figuring
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    ... So what have you done or tried so far?

    Sometimes I find drop can be a difficult one to teach the mechanics, but I don't want to fill up a whole post with stuff you have already done :-)

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    Ok top of my head I will rabbit off some things I have tried.

    - Making her sit, putting the treat close to her nose with a closed fist and slowly moving it to the ground near her paws then slowly our toward me. I was also trying this with her up against a wall.
    - Having her collar and lead on and attempt the above method but use the lead to guide her to the floor
    - Getting her in a sit position and trying to guide her front legs forward (That was given up rather quickly haha)
    - I sat on the other side of a bookcase and teased her with treats but she just wouldnt lay down to get the treats from underneath she just kept trying to stuff her big head under it.

    My last desperate attempt is now rolling on the floor myself and talking to her in a doggie voice telling her to drop lol Or I should say BEGGING!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog_Lover View Post
    My last desperate attempt is now rolling on the floor myself and talking to her in a doggie voice telling her to drop lol Or I should say BEGGING!
    Lmao, oh the things that happen when we dont have a video camera handy!!!
    Cant help with any training as im sure i would be rolling on the floor in frustration also, but wish you success! I do love your pic of the pup in your hand...adorable!
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    Oh, dear, visuals!!!

    With luring Ruby into a drop, try having her stand (I find drop easier to achieve from stand as it happens), the treat goes from the nose slooooooooowly down, but then backwards into Ruby, not out to you. You will need an uber super dooper treat, preferably something you can hold in your hand but that she can also lick and taste to keep her interested in following it. Like a bit of teasing her with it- hold it between thumb, index and middle fingers instead of closed fist.

    Another option is to use your hands to guide Ruby down into the position, but that is horribly hard to explain in text, so maybe try the above one first?

    Also, have you broken the word 'drop'? Do you need a new command?

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    When I taught my girl how to drop I did so on our slippery floor boards. I did the whole slowly lower the treat thing but at the same time put my hand behind her front paws and pushed them forward so they slid on the slippery floor. She had to choice but the drop once she started sliding so that's when I praised like mad.

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    Is there any time when she would normally go into a drop? Use that.

    Don't use the food to lure - but do reward "in position" ie when she does anything on the way towards a drop - say "yes" and reward so she has to get a bit closer to the floor to get the treat - don't give her the treat if she gets up or moves towards you.

    Don't use a cue word or signal (drop - I agree - might be broken) until she's doing it reliably then and the cue word immediately before she'd offer a drop/down for you. I find for drop - Frosty seems to respond much better to hand signal, you can incorporate your hand signal into the way you deliver the treat ie hand moves past her face towards the floor and delivers the treat close to the floor.

    The other thing that might work is teaching her to nose target your hand (touch your hand with her nose - reward with treat in or close to your hand - do not hold the treat in the target hand though - treat arrives after you get your touch), so when you have her moving to your target hand, start moving the hand closer to the floor - so it's a bit like a lure. Work that into a consistent drop signal - and reward close to the floor...

    Digital dog star daily training book should have some videos on how to achieve.
    Sit, Stand & Down | Dog Star Daily
    Note with Luring - you might use it once so the idea of what you might want is in the dog's head. But then you want to stop and wait for the dog to offer it on her own without luring. Otherwise if you always lure - the dog never engages her brain and never learns to do the action without the lure. All she learns is follow the lure. And this applies some to using a hand target as a lure too.

    This is another site about targetting.
    Body Targets

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    I know it's not everyones cup of tea but with the use of a check chain (checking downwards) and the close eye of my trainer i had Mojo dropping straight away and then repeating this for about the next 30 minutes mixed in with other commands. After that a simple voice command and then pointing from his nose to the ground without the collar did the trick.
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    Yeah i used the check chain also. i would wave my right hand down in front of her with the verbal command drop whilst on my knees and pull on her check chain in a quick downward motion with the left hand and she would go straight down - took her the one class and she had it.

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