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    Default Opinions on zap collars?

    Bought one for my kelpie because she is up early in the mornings chasing birds and barking at them and i don't want to get in trouble off the council.. She is nearly 7 months old.

    The lady in the petshop told me she was 'to young'.

    I disagree.... But i want to know other peoples opinions.

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    At 7 months I agree, too young, she's still a puppy and in training. While I agree electronic collars can be useful tools I wouldn't dream of putting one on a puppy, they are a last resort measure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crested_Love View Post
    At 7 months I agree, too young, she's still a puppy and in training. While I agree electronic collars can be useful tools I wouldn't dream of putting one on a puppy, they are a last resort measure.
    I am in favour of E collar training in adult dogs. As i have used one on myself, and its a stimulus, as opposed to a Zap as you describe it, which sounds more barbaric.

    Generally, i would not be using one, unless it was an aversion. And i dont use aversions on pups. I distract, or redirect them. However, it seems you are possibly describing a scenario where your pup has the collar on, and you are in bed trying to get some much needed shut eye.

    So as you asked opinions: not with a puppy, fine with a adult dog, when im 100% sure, that the dog knows the commands, and the trainer knows the collar and trainers timing is impeccable.

    And i would of tried a few things before e collar training such as: crate training, getting up early with the dog, bringing the dog into the house at night.

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    I wouldn't use one of those on a puppy... but I wouldn't use them on an older dog either. Can you imagine getting "zapped" every time you did something wrong.

    I would bring the puppy inside at night. Bella and Harley use to run around barking way to early in the morning, it's stopped since they have been inside.

    There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.

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    Is there some other way you can re-avert her routine so that she isn't chasing birds and barking at an early hour rather than resort straight to the other end of the correction scale?

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    Since this is normal behaviour for a puppy, using a shock collar may cause other problems later on, it's not something that should be used for general training. I would only use a shock collar to teach a dog a strong aversion to something life threatening or dangerous, such as snakes or moving vehicles. You might just have to crate her during the night until she has grown out of it.

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    Using a zap collar would scare the bejeezus out of me if I wasn't 1000% positive {or more, if possible!} of exactly what I was doing - but I would never, ever, ever use one on a 7 month puppy.

    If sleep outside is the standard, then are you able to crate the pup outside on a verandah perhaps, so that while she's outside, she is contained, and can't chase and bark until you are there to check her behaviour in person? If sleeping outside is negotiable, then my personal vote would go for crated in the laundry {somewhere tiled and resistant to wet whilst her bladder develops an all-night capacity}.

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    I can't bring her inside at night. She isn't house trained and she chases my cats. I do avert her attention. I've put her on a lead, i've put her in her cage. And just then i went out there to stop her and she full on bit me she gets that frustrated with them. She's never bitten me before. I just put her in the cage when she bit me for five minutes. Pretty shocked by it but i know why she did it. I didnt yell at her when she bit me. I live in town and need a way to stop her barking or some way to get rid of the birds. Any ideas to scare birds off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkest View Post
    Using a zap collar would scare the bejeezus out of me if I wasn't 1000% positive {or more, if possible!} of exactly what I was doing - but I would never, ever, ever use one on a 7 month puppy.

    If sleep outside is the standard, then are you able to crate the pup outside on a verandah perhaps, so that while she's outside, she is contained, and can't chase and bark until you are there to check her behaviour in person? If sleeping outside is negotiable, then my personal vote would go for crated in the laundry {somewhere tiled and resistant to wet whilst her bladder develops an all-night capacity}.
    I live with my mum and she doesn't want the dog inside at all.

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    We have one on our cattle dog and it's the best thing we ever spent our money on..
    Living on property we can keep the gate open..
    We bought ours from K9 Collars as they are the only ones on the market that
    are water proof..
    We had to train our dog though and has had it on for years (with us renewing the
    battery of course)
    Anything over 1 year old I believe is suitable..
    Our dog can't get near our house and can't get out of our property..
    We did spend thousands on this system but well worth it..
    If it doesn't work he'll refund the money. Works for us.
    Love it..

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