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    I have a 1 1/2 yr old staffy x rotti, and an 8 mth old staffy x jack russell. The Rotti x (Sass) is barking while we are out, be it during the day or night, at apparently nothing. There is a small amount of fence barking when we are home, which she get disciplined for, but when we are out she is barking a lot according to my back neighbour. I have tried kong toys and bones. I have just tried with a vibration anti bark collar, which seems to work ok when it is on, but I have to put a muzzle on the younger smaller dog, Jonah, to stop him from chewing the $80 collar off the other dog, and he then whines. I am at a total loss at what to do, I am stressed all the time and worried when I am out. I am not sleeping properly because I am worried the dogs will make some noise. I can't visit my family in Melbourne, because I now can't leave the dogs. It is day's from 6:30 til around 5 that I am out if I am working, or evenings from 5 til 9 or so. There is no where indoors they can go, especially for that amount of time and there is no garage. I have been keeping in contact with the neighbours and telling them all that I am trying to do to solve this problem, but so far there is no joy.

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    you NEVER leave a dog unattended and muzzled. If you have to rub crib stop on the rotties collar and let the little one get a mouthful of that. Your dogs are bored and have way too much energy. If you cannot run them before you go out at least invest in something like a treadmill and put them on that before you go out to work, only feed from difficult toys/kongs (no food in bowls) and more exercise when you get home. Tired dogs are quiet dogs.

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    Your Rottie is calling you to come back to the pack. Because he's bored out of his brain. You're probably quite lucky that his anxiety at you abandoning the pack takes the form of barking, and not jumping the fence to go looking for you.

    Exercise, exercise, exercise. It doesn't just work the body, it works the mind, and a happy, well exercised mind = stable, non-anxious doglet = happy neighbours. This means you will need to get up about an hour earlier than you do to make sure you walk EVERY SINGLE DAY, morning and night. Yes, it's a commitment, but if you are serious about addressing the problem, it's YOUR behaviour that will alter the dog's behaviour.

    If you are exercising your doglets, it's nowhere near enough. Your dogs should be happy and very tired on return from a walk - a perfect time to leave them alone. They will nap on an off for hours... and be fresh and ready to greet you happily when you return at night, ready for a repeat walk.

    Get yourself a pack saddle for the rottie x also - weight bearing exercise is going to do huge things for his fitness and self-esteem, because mentally he has to work out what to do with himself to keep it where it needs to be. Don't leave it on him when you're not there... only use it for exercise reward.

    And never, ever, ever, ever, EVER leave a muzzle on an unattended doglet. This is a recipe for disaster, and frankly speaks volumes about why you are having issues.

    Boredom in dogs = bad outcomes, mentally and physically.

    Your dogs are bored. YOU have the power to change that.

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    Have I missed something somewhere ? Prior posts or threads concerning the OP and her dogs?

    Because I simply cannot make the call of telling the OP they arn't exercising the dogs enough on that post alone. In fact it doesn't mention exercise,but that doesn't mean the dogs don't get it?
    I also didn't see anywhere in the post where the muzzle is left on when they are not home ? It reads like the OP experimented with it briefly but found it unsuitable.

    So I guess before I can offer any advice at all I would need to ask how much exercise the dogs are getting?
    How long have the dogs lived together?
    What was the Rotts last home/life before you or have you had her from a pup ?

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    both dogs are young, and if the other is also chewing the rottie x's collar it's not going to be anxiety alone. A good tired dog even if it does have anxiety related issues will calm down and sleep off the owner gone period. A vibrational collar wouldnt work on SA but the fact it does shows the dog is simply going for barking over using what toys it does have - classic boredom.

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    Good call choppa!
    Some dogs, despite the owners best efforts bark or have other behavior issues. People work, sometimes full time, leave out kongs. bones, etc andgo for a long walk before and after work everyday... and still the problem may persist.
    Alacrityvirtue is right to be worried as barking dogs generally drive neighbours crazy and the council then gets involved but lets get some more info!
    The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated.
    Mohandas Gandhi

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    Yes both dogs are young , the bearing on the information provided here is still nil.
    The fact they are young is why I chose to lean towards the smaller dog chewing the larger dogs collar because of that before jumping to the conclusion that it did it through sheer boredom.

    " A good tired dog is a quiet dog" .... A good dog of any shape , tired or not, does not guarantee a 'quiet' dog.
    Many dogs will still find some forms of stimulus worthy of barking , leaving beds,food and toys to do so .

    I just cannot see how help can be given without the whole story.

    Cav is very right and the Council may well become involved in the near future if the problem persists.

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    The dogs are getting around an hour a day of walking, be it evening or morning, depending on my schedule. The younger one chews collars, as far as I can tell, because he can. I have had both the dogs since they were pup's. The dogs don't show any concern when I come and go, and the barking is not yelping or sooking, it's barking at nothing in particular, or at the dog next door up and down the fence. If you need anymore info please ask.

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    Thanks Alacrity ( your name is so hard to shorten lol)

    I thought the chewing might be just that,chewing. Unfortunately the breed crosses involved both have bad tendencies for destruction. Pop some vicks on the collar and see how you go with that.

    Is she barking when the dog next door runs the fence or is Sass running the fence to bark at the other dog?
    What type of fencing is it? Is the other dog visible for example....perhaps you could somehow seperate that section of the yard or screen it so the stimulus is reduced.

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    Yes, this person was previously advised not to get a second dog because she didn't have much time for the first dog. And a naughty first dog usually leads to a naughty second dog.

    But it seemed to be going well for a few months anyway.

    We also suggested putting vicks vapour rub on the anti bark collar or separating the dogs (crating) but not sure if this was tried or not.

    I am finding the whole story a bit frustrating but I'm sure Alacrity Virtue will figure out something that works for her.

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