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    Hi everyone

    We are thinking of training our AST for weigh pulling when she gets to the right age.
    I asked our vet if she knows the sport as she will be our permanent trainer for Cindy,
    guess what she said? "I haven't heard that sport" lol......... Anyway anyone from in
    the forum have knowledge or know a club in Sydney? I would like to know about the
    sport and if our dog can perform.

    Thanks
    m<(o.o)>m

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    Sorry a vet shouldn't be a trainer for a dog. Very few vets have any behavioural qualifications at all. They study animal anatomy and diseases. Expecting a vet to be a good dog trainers is like expecting your GP to be a good psychiatrist. I would recommend finding a more qualified trainer, with specific behavioural qualifications and somewhere that runs more than just puppy classes because it is important you train throughout your dogs life but exceptionally important during adolescents.

    In relation to weight pull, it is not very big here in Australia, up here in Qld I have found the only place to do it is the local Husky and Malamute club, I have been to one of their events and it was pretty good, a few Amstaffs etc there. I have just googled and can't find anything specific in Sydney for weight pull.

    Make sure you do not start training early, pup needs to be 12 months old before you do any sort of weight training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keira & Phoenix View Post
    Sorry a vet shouldn't be a trainer for a dog. Very few vets have any behavioural qualifications at all. They study animal anatomy and diseases. Expecting a vet to be a good dog trainers is like expecting your GP to be a good psychiatrist. I would recommend finding a more qualified trainer, with specific behavioural qualifications and somewhere that runs more than just puppy classes because it is important you train throughout your dogs life but exceptionally important during adolescents.

    In relation to weight pull, it is not very big here in Australia, up here in Qld I have found the only place to do it is the local Husky and Malamute club, I have been to one of their events and it was pretty good, a few Amstaffs etc there. I have just googled and can't find anything specific in Sydney for weight pull.

    Make sure you do not start training early, pup needs to be 12 months old before you do any sort of weight training.
    Hi KP

    Will take that advise for trainer - with regards of the weight pull, this is the reason why I created the thread, I cant find local club to watch and even to join.
    I might ask malamute and husky club in sydney.
    m<(o.o)>m

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    Not sure about weight pulling, but you would have to teach your dog first to draft...We do drafting with our newfies.........i know in the USA they do weight-pulling with them too.

    I do very light work with my newfies form about 6 month on.......CArting form about 18 months on and weight from about 2.5 years..but my dogs are giants, so they are late developers.

    The harness is the most important part of all of this....A badly designed harness and make your dog lame. Ours are made in the USA..not leather, because it is likely to rub and a lot of effort to keep soft/supple/clean


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    Check out this link it has many different harnesses and they are reasonably priced (especially with the dollar now)...great service and a good quality product. I have owned one of theirs for six years and the other a couple of years each. They clean easily.

    Measuring to fit is also important. we start with wearing the harness and working the dog from behind, beside and in front.......I use my voice. I also do a lot of off lead obedience with voice commands.

    It is also good to get your dog in drive when pulling weight, you have to get them exited to pull weight eventually

    We also put 3 liter milk bottles on the traces and slowly increase the volume of water for the young dogs. from 500ml- 3000ml...Which give a 6kg pull for young dogs.

    We go to wheels after that, but you would increase weight and get you dog in drive and make him follow you with increasing weight....never start weight too young, you will wreck your dog.

    Also some dogs will never pull....We have had newfies who love to pull and we have had a couple who just did not enjoy it, they just did it. Same as Rescue work. My Annabelle loves Draft work/carting.......Katy not, but she loves water Rescue, Annabelle not LOL......I go wit the flow and I work on what the dog loves to do

    Good luck.........I am happy to answer questions any time, I love teaching Draft work. We have GSD and a Rottie doing great Draft work now. love it
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    newfsie - thanks mate appreciate your input very very helpful, what is drafting anyway? also I think i need to make sure our dog is 100% leash trained then.
    m<(o.o)>m

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    Windchill also do made-to-fit weight pull harnesses.

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    I'm guessing Drafting is like what Draft horses do - I know some of Newfsie's dogs are trained to pull carts, and that's similar to what I've seen the husky and malamute club doing in SA. Ie they have a replica of a sled that will run on grass (mountain bike wheels) and their dogs race a circuit with those. The howling that goes with it would make a werewolf proud.

    Weight training my dog - not something I'd ever do. Too much risk of stuffing her up and increasing the chance of early joint problems. We do agility - jumping instead. Which can also lead to joint problems if you over do it.

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    Yes drafting is carting and if there is snow, which we did at Dinner Plain, pulling a sled.....like I said, the dog needs to be really sound. that is why we start ours late. We also fully health check our dogs with x-rays at 2.5 years old..So hips and elbows are checked. Nothing to do with the Draft work, just what we do anyway. i would never do agility or drafting with weight with a dog that could have possible ortho issues.

    And it is important that your dog works well off lead.....Good obedience and a good recall. Imagine a dog taking off with something in tow....Scary..........
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    I do weight training with rotties, like this:
    lay on sofa, hold tight to one end of tug rope, dog yanks you off.
    Bike, leash and harness and MUSH, MUSH lol

    We play with weight, but its not something we do, just something rotties love.
    I agree, the harness needs to be a good one for dogs comfort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bernie View Post
    I do weight training with rotties, like this:
    lay on sofa, hold tight to one end of tug rope, dog yanks you off.
    Bike, leash and harness and MUSH, MUSH lol

    We play with weight, but its not something we do, just something rotties love.
    I agree, the harness needs to be a good one for dogs comfort.
    At the moment she is 4 months old Approx - I know its very young and early stage to start it, I just want to prepare
    Well at the back yard we do tag of war with her toy - she tries to pull it hard and I know she is giving it a good go

    Quote Originally Posted by newfsie View Post
    Yes drafting is carting and if there is snow, which we did at Dinner Plain, pulling a sled.....like I said, the dog needs to be really sound. that is why we start ours late. We also fully health check our dogs with x-rays at 2.5 years old..So hips and elbows are checked. Nothing to do with the Draft work, just what we do anyway. i would never do agility or drafting with weight with a dog that could have possible ortho issues.

    And it is important that your dog works well off lead.....Good obedience and a good recall. Imagine a dog taking off with something in tow....Scary..........
    Yes - that's what we doing now in puppy school - next will be obedience training

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    I'm guessing Drafting is like what Draft horses do - I know some of Newfsie's dogs are trained to pull carts, and that's similar to what I've seen the husky and malamute club doing in SA. Ie they have a replica of a sled that will run on grass (mountain bike wheels) and their dogs race a circuit with those. The howling that goes with it would make a werewolf proud.

    Weight training my dog - not something I'd ever do. Too much risk of stuffing her up and increasing the chance of early joint problems. We do agility - jumping instead. Which can also lead to joint problems if you over do it.
    I might make this a project - make our own cart when I get her harness later down the track
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