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    Would love some ideas as to what i can teach my 11 week old Rottweiler next. He will be starting puppy school in a couple of weeks because he's only having his next lot of vaccinations next week. I've been 'youtubing' dog training videos so i can make sure i'm teaching him correctly

    So far he's mastered toilet training, he even comes to get me to let him out when he needs to go.
    He sits even when told to sit from a few metres away. He waits for food, sits & won't touch it until he's told he can eat. I've done leash training over a few days in the backyard & he's nailed it. Down (lay) he will do when told but I'm still working on trying to get him to stay down lol.
    Shake is perfect as well... So what should i try next?? Do you think he's too young for stay? Should i save something for puppy school?? Ideas would be great

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    Have you tried Shake, then other hand and have him raise his other paw, Or Hi-5/Hi paw and have him raise both paws?

    Nice rotti by the way, what suburb are you in Adelaide?

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    "Settle"......Being able to be held and hold quietly. To me it is the most important of all............Just holding, when he is quiet, reward........

    Also doing toe nails, or being able to hold feet and fiddle with feet without puppy struggling.........When you hold feet and no struggle "yes"/click reward. Do this every day

    Looking directly into puppies eyes...hold the eyes, "yes"/click reward........And getting other people to do it. get puppies used to being confronted by direct gaze and making it fun/desirable for them.......It might help when he has matured, to be less offended by non-savvy dog people. I teach that to every puppy in my puppy classes............Also pass the puppy.....Gently get some differnt people to hold puppy in a comfortable hold. If too large, the puppies feet can still be on the ground and he can be held by the collar. When puppy realxes and is quiet "yes"/click reward.

    These are social skills to teach, the will make your puppy a better canine citizen and more tolerant and happier with being held or in strange environments.

    Also teach place or crate training....To give "be alone" time. I use brisket bones, but stuffed kongs are great too

    We also teach "check". Puppy lying on his side and being handled all over. Make it a happy experience and fun, with lots of treats if he behaves. Very handy for future vet visits...........Touch all over and get some one else to do it too. Nice friendly people........Everytime he realxes "yes"/click and reward
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    My three favourite things to teach a puppy outside of toilet training, crate training, knowing his name and coming when called and just being happy being on his own are;

    A conditioned reinforcer - it's never too early to learn.

    A release command - we often forget to let our puppies know when the exercise has finished and as puppies have short attention spans it help to release them before they 'stuff it up' or have to guess when they can stop sitting, down, etc. How many people come to puppy class and have taught their pups to sit but forgot to tell him when he can get up I could cry.

    The tie up exercise - learning what it's like to be restrained by a lead is handy, plus once you build up to out of sight tie ups it helps to create confidence and knowing that you will return.

    I also like looming exercises, though not so important for the larger breeds.
    Grabbing at collar.
    Call and release.
    I like Newfie's handling exercises, nothing makes your life easier than your puppy getting used to being handled.

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    But having said all that I sometimes also see puppies that come to class with no training and then overtake those with some basic skills. So keep it fun and don't kill the enthusiasm.

    Some toy drive is also a very good idea and most puppy preschools incorporate lessons on how to expand on this.

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    He does the switching of paws with shake ;-) I'm south of Adelaide but id rather not say what suburb, only because so many dogs have been stolen around here latly & you never know who's viewing this. Better to be safe then sorry ;-)
    Thanks for the ideas !!!
    For the release command do you usually use the word release?? I've heard of the click techniques Defenitly something I need to look into. He's very good with eye contact.. Even walking on the lead he seems to be watching me more than where he's going & when it's time to eat he keeps eye contact until I'm ready for him to eat. I always thought dogs were challenging you when making direct eye contact?

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    I use the word "free" but I've heard other people use "release, relax, play, over". You can use whatever word you want, as long as it's the same word every time.

    In regards to the "stay" command, I see this as pointless. Each command given is meant to be performed until the release command is given. In other words, "sit (until you hear another command or free)". The dog must stay until released or given another command.

    I personally have a "wait" command but that's generally for going in or out the door or if I open the car door but want him to wait before jumping in. He's a gentleman now and will wait at the door until everyone has come in, then he'll walk through last

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    Everyone works differently with their dogs, I do use the word stay, because I use my dogs to be with me.....if I walk and stop the dog sits automatically, if i move again my dogs come with me automatically. Mine only stay in place if I say stay or wait. When my dogs are more advanced they watch my foot work and work on which foot i take off on ( left foot take off means come along right means stay) . But i hardly ever use the command sit........So they need the word stay.

    There are no rules, just do what works for you. And as long as you always do the same, your dog will get it. My drop is only ever a hand action for my finished dogs. I personally don't like the loud commands some people use ( my Dad always did). I like the quiet hand signals.

    I do use "free" . but it often is just a head touch with me, which the dogs are used to getting with free. My voice is used more for rewards........That is why I love Rally Obedience, because you are allowed to reward verbally, which my dogs love.

    The same as the door for me. I ask my dogs to go through first.........Our door opens inward, when we all go outside, and i am not going through it before the dogs and go back in to shut the door........crazy.......My dogs are polite. When and who goes through the door makes no difference. I am the same with eating, our dogs always eat first, because it is more convenient for us. They all eat together in the kitchen and they all get their food in what ever order i choose on the day. And no-one goes to any other dish, unless I say OK.

    I think if you set the rules and sticjk with them, you will have a happy dog, who knows what to expect what and where......First most be reliable and constant.
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    I use FREE and clap hands twice, I used to use OK on my own dogs, but people say that a lot.

    Free means exactly that, the dog is on it's own time, work/training has finished, for a few minutes, for the day, for whatever.

    It's used a lot more at lower level or with puppies because they can't be expected to roll from one exercise to the next like a more seasoned dog.

    I do also use stay. And if you want to get really particular footwork is importand too. If you step off on your left foot the dog comes with you. If you step away on your right foot it indicates to the dog it is to stay.

    I incorporate all this in my puppy classes because you always get a couple of people who will go onto higher classes and I think it's good to start as you mean to continue, makes theirs and their dogs further training much easier.

    This is what I mean by not getting too far ahead of yourself if you can picture yourself going to obedience classes and maybe doing some competition or even Rally-O which is becoming very popular as you don't have a judge issuing instructions which makes most people nervous and you can reward your dog.

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    It sounds regimented but most instructors will break things up with building a love of toys, retrieve, settle on mat that type of thing. And some like myself will also give you a taste of what to work on if you want to go further.

    Turn up with either a proper treat bag or I often recommend a bum bag from those bargain stores, don't put food into a plastic bag or the rustling bag noise will override everything else and you often miss reward opportunities like puppy just sitting calmly because you struggle to get food out.

    Chop wet/moist food very finely. I like bbq chicken but also use chicken sausage with the skin off, it's soft and easy for pup to gobble down.

    Just rinse the bag out when finished. You can get replacement liners for the blackdog treat bags, I've had the same liner for about 4 years now. With the bum bags I also rinse them, and replace them about every 3 months.
    Last edited by MAC; 02-08-2012 at 08:01 AM.

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