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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuri_89 View Post
    Lol, i think the word you were looking for was "Rehabilitated", i know how you feel in regards to telling people your dog isn't friendly, but they still stupidly bring their dog up to say hello. We have a cattle dog X shitzu with some aggression issues and because people think he's smaller than their dog they think "What harm can he do?" and he's actually very vicious and won't let up when he gets into a fight, it's scary. We've worked with him alot & it's no too much of a problem now, we can take him to the off-lead park and he does okay. Every now and then there will be a dog he takes a disliking to and he will go in for the kill lol, but we've learnt to watch for the signs and chuck him straight back on the lead when he plays up. He seems to not like the more "dominant" type dogs.
    Yeah I have seen smaller dogs hurt bigger dogs, because the bigger dog gets caught by surprise and may not be a fighter at all. many dogs react badly to the "Siff arm" approach from other dogs.

    Funny story, back a way when Tess was more "reactive" to dogs that bounced up and jumped up at her, there was staffie/cross/cross/ etc that was a real problem. He would take at any dog that showed any sign of adverse or dominant reaction to him, and cause quite a bit of strife. Yet he and Tess were the best of playmates and would bump each other and belly-up, to the point that I would get a little worried. But never a cross word between them! Because of his aggression, the other dog was both neutered and given calming stuff. Now he's fine with other dogs (although he does not play, just runs around) ......... and a useless play partner for Tess. shrug.
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    [QUOTE=newfsie;156342

    I like this poster....i had it enlarged and it now hangs at our kennel Club

    Hope it is large enough to read[/QUOTE]

    HAHA! Yes I can read it and it just says it all!
    Nick Peg n Benny (or is it Peg n Benny n Nick?)

    (nTess, forever in my heart)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lala View Post
    Yep, we dont take our girl anywhere there are other dogs either. And we are always on the lookout for other dogs on walks. Again though, she is easily managed as she is very small. She can carry on all she likes about it but theres no way she can get to the other dog. Actually thats a bit exeggerated. There are heaps of dogs in our neighbourhood so we do go places where there are other dogs....but not anywhere they will be crowding roung her. And she never has her lead off.

    LIke oyu, we want to go motorhoming when our daughter finishes school, and we will take our angry little lady with us. However, she is super friendly to people so maybe thats the difference, I am not sure. She came this way (completely undersocialised) and it can be frustrating to not be able to rock up to the dog park with her, but its not something wed do alot anyway, and we love her to bits even with her flaws LOL.

    Good luck with it all. I hope you and scruffy get what you need.
    Yeah Scruff and Pearl are great with people. I just cannot ask Tess to give up so much of what she is used to, when there is no real payback: they are still only at a truce.
    Nick Peg n Benny (or is it Peg n Benny n Nick?)

    (nTess, forever in my heart)

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    Well....some good news. We went to a park that had dogs only in a far corner, and then only a couple. We did take the 3 dogs, with Scruff and pearl on leash until we were right on our own. Tess chased her thong (more fun than a ball AFASIC) and Scruffy chased a new toy my wife bought.....and brought it back (!!) after a bit of coaxing. I am not sure if he has ever been trained to do that, as he showed no reaction to the toy, then chased it and left there, then picked it up, but dropped it as soon as I called him. But after about 5-10 minutes it clicked and he was away. Now he is a bit obsessed, which for me is better then no play at all and aggression the only day out. It would not surprise me if he picked up the idea, as he is a very bright boy, and eager to please.

    All in all a pleasant outing.

    Pearl barked.
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    (nTess, forever in my heart)

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    you found a way to release some energy........
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    Yup! trouble is we had two walks (one just with Tess) then another with the lot....now we are more tired than the dogs!
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    LOL Nick! That's always the way.

    I used to walk my 2 separately as it was easier and I could go by myself, but like ya say, it gets pretty tiring 2 trips LOL

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    Yeah and now we are about to do it all over again! Oh well it gets us out and about, and the weather is to die for these last few days.
    Nick Peg n Benny (or is it Peg n Benny n Nick?)

    (nTess, forever in my heart)

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    I know this is an old post now, but I wanted to follow up on it. It may help others. to my mind it s a truly remarkable story and apparently successful,.

    To summarise, we had two little dogs (Westie Mum and Westie cross Son)that came to us because nobody else wanted them, in the family of my recently deceased BIL.They were terrors. They would bark all the time at any sound in the house, sneak out at every opportunity and go AWOL, and attack other dogs when we went for walks, on or off lead. They would also have a go at me if I struck any sort of pose, or walked funny.

    We handed them to somebody else, who really loved them. But they came back to us after they started barking until the neighbours complained and attacking his son, refusing to stop. I do not know if there was anything the son had done, but he just said that he was not coming back to his father's house if the dogs were there. To me that does indicate some lack of dog (and family?) empathy...however...

    We had told people about the dogs at the dog park, insisting that they had to stay together as they were mother and son who had been together since the son's birth. But we were desperate, and were seriously considering letting them go apart.

    And that is what happened. One of the people at the dog park took the son, Scruffy. We came to the dog park next day and could not believe our eyes. There was Scruffy running around in a pack of dogs....playing. We felt a bit foolish and inadequate, as we had never seen this. I am sure that Bruno, the guy who had taken Scruffy, was wondering about us a bit, although we are very close friends with Bruno.

    We had brought Pearl, the mother, with us. She had a growl at a couple of dogs and was kept on lead. We also had Tess, our BC/Staffy cross. She is fine.

    So we got Pearl and Scruffy together, and they had a bit of a sniff....and _immediately_, Scruffy began lunging and viciously barking at every dog in the area.He had to be put back on lead and taken away. In the end we decide that my wife would go one way with Pearl and Bruno and I would go the other with Scruffy and Tess. It really took Bruno aback to see this other side of Scruffy. He was exclaiming and shaking his head for ages. He said he wished he had not seen it, as it really worried him, but form our point of view I am glad he did.

    After about 10-15 minutes, Scruffy was again happy to meet other dogs and was let off lead....to play happily with them. I went aside to take some photos and saw my wife meeting up with Bruno again across the park. Within seconds there was a cacophony of growls and barks, and people trying to restrain our little terrors.

    We now have Pearl and my wife is a bit disappointed because she liked Scruffy more. but we were pretty desperate. The other option was the dog's home or death. We cannot be too unhappy, as our friend Bruno is besotted by Scruffy and Scruffy seems very fond of him after only about a week. Pearl and Scruffy will probably never meet again. Neither show any sign of missing the other. Pearl is a LOT better, although she has had a bit of a go a few times, on lead, and we are not quite happy about letting her off. Scruffy has a few mild lapses, but will mill around in a pack of up to 10 dogs from Great Danes down to Chihuahuas, with NO signs of aggression.

    I can only think that the two dogs were totally jealous of each other, and felt the need to be irritating, noisy and aggressive to get the attention over the other one, or to prove who was boss. It turns out that Pearl is actually worse than Scruffy, who probably just followed his Mum's lead. They used to regularly fight amongst themselves and Pearl would always have a go at our long-time girl Tess, with a resultant need to separate them before Pearl got hurt. In hindsight that was a clue, but they were just so generally obnoxious we were blinded to it.

    Tess and pearl have _played_ together.

    As I say, a story of a remarkable change, that may help others with two dogs that are problems.
    Nick Peg n Benny (or is it Peg n Benny n Nick?)

    (nTess, forever in my heart)

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    I just want to add that we did walk them separately, but it did not work. It was only after separation for some time that they settled. As soon as they came back together it was on again and even after just 5 minutes together it took 10 mins for Scruffy to settle again.

    And interestingly, Pearl will become totally aggressive if we take Tess along for the walk. not toward Tess but to other dogs. She probably _needs_ to go to a single dog home. I may need some time to convince my wife
    Last edited by oldNick; 05-15-2013 at 03:57 PM.
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