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    Okay so we have another issue with Koda
    So right from day one Koda has been a great guard dog, has always barked at cars coming in the driveway and will continue barking at the person until he actually meets them and realises they are actually nice. this is a good thing to us because we like the warning. Koda has also always been very protective of me.
    So in the past week this barking has suddenly escalated
    now he will bark/howl at the car coming in the driveway, then bark at the person as they come to the gate (as usual) but instead of accepting them he now Barks, Howls, Growls and stares at the person. we definately dont want this at all! (i dont think anyone does)
    so things we have done to stop this behaviour.
    1. get him to come, sit, stay (and be rewarded for good behaviour) he will do all of these things but no matter what i do he wont stop barking and growling.
    2. give the person who arrived some treats to give to Koda... he will take the treats but he is very cautious and will continue barking/growling at them afterwards.
    3. Growling and yelling at him (this usually works very well with Koda, in most other situatios) but in this situation it seems to be doing nothing.
    Anyone got some tips on how to stop this behaviour... please...
    For those who read my previous post about Koda, do you think this could be connected to what happened with the larger dogs?

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    I didn't read the other post about Koda, as I have recently joined this forum.

    It would be hard to tell, from your description, why he is barking and reacting the way he is. It would be better if it was done in person.

    To be honest, I don't think allowing him to continue barking at the person originally was the best idea. You should always have control over your dog's behaviour. I have a client who has three dogs that all bark at anyone who comes to there house and continue to bark and bark. She has tried the things that you have tried but it doesn't work either.

    When I came to their house, I simply ignored the dogs and went about my business around the house as though they didn't exist. A lot of dogs are afraid of the confrontation and therefore try to act all tough and scary to scare away the stranger. If you ignore them and show no fear, they begin to calm down and use their noses to find out who you are.

    Critical distance is, well just that, critical. If the dog is reacting to the stimulus (being the person), then the closer the stilumlus gets the worse the reaction. I would suggest having people that Koda already knows come to your house and have them wait out the front, wait for Koda to calm down (with your help through leadership and discipline) and slowly work up to them meeting. This should work faster with peple Koda knows. Once Koda is familiar with the desired behaviour it will make it easier with strangers.

    Do you get Koda to focus on you at any point?

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    If he is doing it to familiar people also, it may be an idea to take him to the vet and just make sure nothing is going on.

    A lot of dog behaviour changes can stem from something physical/ medical. something you can't see or feel from a general check over...

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    Agree with above.

    Also how old is Koda now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pawfectionist View Post
    I didn't read the other post about Koda, as I have recently joined this forum.

    It would be hard to tell, from your description, why he is barking and reacting the way he is. It would be better if it was done in person.

    To be honest, I don't think allowing him to continue barking at the person originally was the best idea. You should always have control over your dog's behaviour. I have a client who has three dogs that all bark at anyone who comes to there house and continue to bark and bark. She has tried the things that you have tried but it doesn't work either.

    When I came to their house, I simply ignored the dogs and went about my business around the house as though they didn't exist. A lot of dogs are afraid of the confrontation and therefore try to act all tough and scary to scare away the stranger. If you ignore them and show no fear, they begin to calm down and use their noses to find out who you are.

    Critical distance is, well just that, critical. If the dog is reacting to the stimulus (being the person), then the closer the stilumlus gets the worse the reaction. I would suggest having people that Koda already knows come to your house and have them wait out the front, wait for Koda to calm down (with your help through leadership and discipline) and slowly work up to them meeting. This should work faster with peple Koda knows. Once Koda is familiar with the desired behaviour it will make it easier with strangers.

    Do you get Koda to focus on you at any point?
    Thanks so much, we will give that a go!
    hopefully it will work!
    when i get him to sit and stay next to me, while strangers are there, i try to get him to focus on me but it is very difficult... sigh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keira & Phoenix View Post
    Agree with above.

    Also how old is Koda now?
    He is about 20 months old

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddogdodge View Post
    He is about 20 months old
    I had a feeling he would be close to 18 months/2 years.

    Some dogs who have seemed "fine" up until 18 months can start to show obvious signs of behavioural issues after 18 months.
    There usually are earlier signs of issues but most are interspersed or mild and an average dog owner won't put two and two together until it starts to get out on control as they move from adolescents into adulthood.

    If I was you I would be looking to get a qualified behaviouralist out to work with you, to at least assess exactly what the issue is and give you a behaviour modification plan you can work on.

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    I cant really offer any advice, I just tell me dogs "enough" and they stop and thats not really helpful to you. Especially as I have no idea how I got them to that point

    Personally, I would put my dogs away when someone turned up and they were being rude (the dogs I mean lol).

    But agree with others maybe get someone in, and a trip to the vet. Good luck. hope you get it sorted.

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    I remember your last post and what stood out for me with that was his reluctance to get in the car even before the confrontation with the Danes. It's all a bit strange, isn't it? Did you take him to the vet after that? And have you wormed him recently?

    If it is not something physical, I would try Pawfectionist's advice also. It will be important to get someone with lots of patience to help you. Ideally you want the person to start a safe distance away and reward Koda for being calm. Then very slowly let the person come closer, ie. touch the gate or front door, and keep rewarding for calm behaviour. If he is getting too exited, let your helper go back a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloz View Post
    I remember your last post and what stood out for me with that was his reluctance to get in the car even before the confrontation with the Danes. It's all a bit strange, isn't it? Did you take him to the vet after that? And have you wormed him recently?

    If it is not something physical, I would try Pawfectionist's advice also. It will be important to get someone with lots of patience to help you. Ideally you want the person to start a safe distance away and reward Koda for being calm. Then very slowly let the person come closer, ie. touch the gate or front door, and keep rewarding for calm behaviour. If he is getting too exited, let your helper go back a bit.
    hmmmmmm... it does seem to be a bit of a mystery...
    i didnt take him to the vet after that incident (as he seemed perfectly normal afterwards) ... but now with whats going on i am thinking i should, just to ensure he is totally healthy.
    he is regually wormed, and is due again this saturday, so i will get on to that in the next few days.

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