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Thread: crossing over to clicker training from training in drive, both dog and owner

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    We have a 5 month old pup, who apart from manners, has not begun training yet, waiting till we got to new house. so having moved in, ive started with her and all is going well. A very food motivated dog!

    Out of curiosity, i tried it on our 2yr old GSD, who is a well trained companion, but working stock so needs 'working' daily to keep him sane.
    I was teaching, stand on this piece of paper and you'll get a treat.
    he took 3 repetitions and 'got it'. Twas truly amazing and funny to watch him think about it, then start controlling my behaviour by pouncing onto the paper to get me to click/treat.

    Im sold! I love to watch dogs figuring out things for themselves, and Bernie is a natural 'thinker' anyhow. I now have a new hobby!

    Has anyone else converted over with a converted dog? what have been your experiences with your 'other method trained' dog when you introduced clicker?

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    I started clicker training from the start with Banjo, but I too love seeing her brain work when she is trying to figure out what exactly I am trying to get her to do. And that moment that she gets it is such a thrill for both of us!

    She's not a GSD though, so doesn't have quite the same enthusiasm.

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    I use it all..........And I use what works best for the moment. I have one clicker mad dog, Katy, I have had her from Puppy........She loves to offer you what she thinks you might pay for..........So if you have an item she will work it until you click her and she will instantly repeat it. I love the dogs that try so hard to please you

    I used to be a pure +ve reinforcement/-ve Punishment

    I also have one newfie who does not get that at all...........I could sit there all day and she would just look at me and fall asleep. Put her in old fashioned type learning Obedience and she loves it. She gets it. that is why i use all methods and have not shut myself into a bracket. Annabelle never understood +ve Reinforcement/-ve punishment. I think it is because she was a Rescue and mistreated. She is the only dog of mine I had to use the Check-chain on, but really only very soft pop's, but she understood. And with her we also use a voice reprimand......Ignoring never worked, still does not work. Mind you she was people and dog aggressive, so we had to have some control. She also was very aggressive initially around food, so food rewards made her worse. Now she knows what food rewards are and loves them.....And now we out her in drive, she never has a check-chain on, but we occasionally have to tap her with my finger to remind her of her manners. We get her into drive quite easily and she heels incredibly well and does agility in drive. But when i have her in drive, I have to voice control her around other dogs, because she is more likely to be possibly aggressive. But she is well proofed and under control in extreme conditions now, due to all the training. I have had other dogs disrupt her sit/stays with going to her and licking her and she has stayed.......I am not sure if my other R+/P- dog is so proofedShe has taught me so much.

    I just use what works for the Handler and dogs nowadays...i was very set in my way, but due to Annabelle, i met some incredible trainers on both sides of the fence. I now do what is best for the dogs in the kindest method for the dog that works with their handler. Only a very small percentage of dogs are like my Annabelle. Well ones that have survived and not PTS
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    Tried to 'break in' Gypsy's clicker on Saturday. She freaked out and even the yummy, super stinky, chicken pollock bits weren't enough to persuade her it was okay. After the 3rd click she skulked off, tail between her legs and peed herself. So I have ordered a silent dog whistle which should arrive at work tomorrow to instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClareBear View Post
    Tried to 'break in' Gypsy's clicker on Saturday. She freaked out and even the yummy, super stinky, chicken pollock bits weren't enough to persuade her it was okay. After the 3rd click she skulked off, tail between her legs and peed herself. So I have ordered a silent dog whistle which should arrive at work tomorrow to instead.
    Try just using the word "yesss"....."yesss" = click......... If she is too sensitive for the noise. I do have one silly clicker at home that you can turn down Maybe it is for dogs like Gypsy
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    I'm trying to teach Frosty to sing on cue. Not the same as barking or talking. which I already have on cue.

    I'm also trying to teach her to hold a tug toy with a view to getting her to hold a spoon with a treat in it later. this is a bit more difficult because I can't use food as reward. Or she spits the toy out to get the food.

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    There's no reason that clicker training and TID should be mutually exclusive, in fact marker training and TID go hand in hand.

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    Clare - Try sticking your hand in your pocket with the clicker and clicking it in there. Some dogs are sensitive to the noise and will freak out at first. Having it in your pocket muffles the noise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smeagle View Post
    There's no reason that clicker training and TID should be mutually exclusive, in fact marker training and TID go hand in hand.
    I believe you are right smeagle, but it sure is fun watching the TID dog work out Clicker training in 3 seconds! I will always be TID. As i like 'lit up' dogs. I used to attend a training class, he'd be 100% accurate, but sunday sits, bored shitless, a bit like me really. We left and have never looked back since.

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    I have always used the word "yes" with Bernie as my marker. This has worked as well as clicker, and less to carry for the less dextrous amoungst us.

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