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    Default Border Collie/kelpie Nipping and Licking

    I posted a thread in the border collie section and I'm sorry, I think I have put it in the wrong place. I am copying and pasting my question here....

    My 4 year old bc/kelpie constantly licks my 3 year old grandson's mouth/face. He doesn't nip so much as his teeth do hit my little one's face because he pushes at him and of course it hurts. He hasn't broken the skin, but I am terrified he will. I tell Cody 'don't' and he stops immediately, usually sits and stays for me too. But the trouble is, he goes back to doing it. He's highly excitable around my grandsons, he adores being with them and I realise this is a herding instinct, and Cody mean absolutely no harm. But I am frightened he will harm him. Cody is a major part of my family. Can anyone help me? Have I written in the right area?

    Thanks so much,

    Sandra and Cody (and Bella too, my staffie x)

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    Yeah I think you have it in the right area... I have the same problem with Bella and her insane obsession with licking, luckily I have no kids yet so its not so much a problem than it is annoying... but I would like to hear how others have gotten dogs to stop this!

    There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.

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    My grandson is the height of Cody's head but even with my youngest, Cody bends his head to get to him. Doesn't stop. I hope someone has some ideas for us both.

    Your Bella and Harley are gorgeous. Harley loves the ball eh? That's my Bella's obsession.

    Sandra

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    Thanks! Harley is nuts about the ball, I just brought them a giant tennis ball and he was beside himself with excitement! lol Only problem is when you want to play he won't give you the ball, but when you don't want to play he constantly put the ball in your lap! lol Nutters!

    There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.

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    That's Bella!!! And the slobber!!! YUCK LOL The tennis balls wore her teeth down so I buy those bright coloured bouncy balls now.

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    Hi BellaCody

    A working dog needs a job to do, and as far as yours is concerned, cleaning little boys faces is good. Actually it's pretty standard keplie grovelly play invitation. Licking another dog's face is a thing that a puppy does to its mum for food and my dog does to very old dogs and old people as a sign of respect... the old dogs are usually tolerant cos she's gentle. My mum is not so keen but my dog usually stops trying after about 10 minutes of very thorough greeting.

    Anyway you have to focus on what you want your dog to do around your grand son instead. You've got a good handle on what you don't want her to do but think about what would be ok. Like a drop down?

    So get her to do a drop and hold it while you let your grandson greet her. I'd be very wary of leaving any dog alone with a small child, mostly cos you can't predict what the child will do - especially when you're not looking. And if your dog licks at all or tries to, move her away from the object of her desire, and repeat this every time she tries. I would actually crate train her - to keep her safe from the grandson until he's a bit older and more aware of how to treat a dog right. If I didn't have a crate handy, I'd keep her on lead with me so I can make sure she's fully supervised around the child.

    So each time she tries to interact with your grandson, give her the job to do that you'd like her to be doing. Like a drop down, or sit-stay, or fetch the ball (that would be a good reward for doing the right thing) ie she tries to lick - she goes on lead, she does the right thing, you throw the ball for her. No scolding required. Lots of praise when she does what you want.

    PS lots of good info here. http://www.dogstardaily.com/training

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    This is great, thank you soooo much. I see what you are saying here, give Cody a job to do rather than me saying 'don't'. I never leave kids and dogs unsupervised so I'm in a good place here as far as being on top of things. Oh thank you. I'll read the link you sent to me now too. Again, thank you. This is a huge help and if I'm giving him a job, he will 'get it' rather than me saying 'don't'. What a relief. But just to make it clear in my head (it takes alot unfortunately), I make him sit/stay (or whatever) till they greet and then after the greeting, if Cody tries to lick, I leash him and make him sit/stay again. If he just goes over to him and doesn't try licking, I throw a party and toss the ball.

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    Bellacody

    You got it, dog does what you want, throw a party and reward dog with his fave things.

    Here's some more stuff that you might like...
    Pick a Dog Training Challenge | Susan Garrett's Dog Training Blog

    At the moment she's plugging her online training offerings (which I like), but there's lots of good stuff about "Do Land" (what do you want your dog to DO?) all through the blog.

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    Excellent! Thank you. I am reading the link you gave me before, it's wonderful. Lots of reading. Thanks for the second link, I know I"m going to enjoy that one too. Trying to put my dogs' pics here, like for my signature like you have. I love your little one, peeping out like that, so cute

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    Hyacinth, just wanted to update you with Cody's progress. He's doing really well. We're working on it still but on the whole, he's picking up not to try licking the boys on the face. Funny thing, I noticed yesterday when my boys were here that Cody went to lick and before I had a chance to say anything, he sat down He's a smart boy.

    Thanks again for your help, I see light at the end of my worrying tunnel.

    Sandra

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