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Thread: HELP-My Puppy Keeps Peeing in My Bed!

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    Honestly I just can't be bothered anymore. I am just sick of people thinking I make these things up in my head, when it is verifiable research done by some of the most respected people in the business.
    I actually can't see where anyone was accusing of making it up in your head? I totally believe that you've seen the research and believe it, but *I* haven't seen it and therefore why I should believe it? I haven't seen that research to convince me.

    I have googled but I can't find anything ground breaking in regards to it. I have found some information to suggest dogs can feel a kind of dulled down envy. That's where I get my opinion from =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by silvershadowwolf24 View Post
    I actually can't see where anyone was accusing of making it up in your head? I totally believe that you've seen the research and believe it, but *I* haven't seen it and therefore why I should believe it? I haven't seen that research to convince me.

    I have googled but I can't find anything ground breaking in regards to it. I have found some information to suggest dogs can feel a kind of dulled down envy. That's where I get my opinion from =)
    As I said, you won't find the research on the internet. You actually have to have access to hardcopies.

    Books like mentioned in my earlier post have pretty much all modern, scientific research on dog behaviour, behavioural issues and social structure in them plus some.

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    Sorry I will need to agree with K&P....Dogs dont get jealous...I think protective is what you may be referring too... they have an instinct to guard

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    Nope, she's certainly not protective nor guarding. That's your opinion =) I'm certainly allowed to hold my own.

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    My dog always lines up for treats and pats when they're being handed out. Ie if some other dog comes to me and gets a butt rub, she comes too, and she gets a butt rub as well. She never snarks at the other dog. Sometimes the other dog snarks at her, and then butt rubs immediately cease so they soon learn not to.

    Except for one dog that got reported to council and has never been back since. That was a very nasty dog. It snarked at Frosty for coming to me for a pat, and it then put its teeth on me for stopping it from attacking Frosty. I think it depends how you define jealous - if guarding a resource or wanting a resource that some other dog has - is jealous - then dogs get jealous. But I don't think dogs are all that great at saving up the thought for later and then doing something like ripping up the couch "out of jealousy".

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    Perhaps "envy" is a better word? I agree that I don't think they'd remember and/or act spitefully because of it later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silvershadowwolf24 View Post
    Perhaps "envy" is a better word? I agree that I don't think they'd remember and/or act spitefully because of it later on.
    No it is wanting priority access to resources, which is their natural instinct. Not envy, the instinct to survive.

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    I don't really believe that attention and some pats (especially not from me, since I don't do anything for her) is necessary for their survival (or that she thinks this).

    But again, this is my opinion lol. I'm not forcing it on you guys, just having a discussion =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by silvershadowwolf24 View Post
    I don't really believe that attention and some pats (especially not from me, since I don't do anything for her) is necessary for their survival (or that she thinks this).

    But again, this is my opinion lol. I'm not forcing it on you guys, just having a discussion =)
    Yeah I agree, attention to one particular dog is not detrimental to the survival of the other. I still say they do get jealous/envious regardless of what so called experts say

    If dogs are not like a pack and more like a family unit (which has been mentioned a few times before) I would think it is only natural for there to be some sibling rivalry/jealousy!

    But, this is my opinion... wrong or not and I am sticking to it

    There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.

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    Ahhh, what was this hijacked thread about? That's right, toilet training for an 8 week old pup.

    I use a word too when I toilet train so they associate the word and the deed.
    I say it on the way out, whilst they are doing it and now it is used as a question as I open the door to see who wants to go out for one.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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