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    Must have written my big post as you were posting yours. Oops. Good to see you're on the right track now. Timing is everything, stuffing up your timing with rewards based training is more forgiving than other methods. Ie you've got more room for error, and if you and the dog can get it right 8 out of 10 times that's usually enough for the lesson to "take".

    And what your dog finds most rewarding - will be different over time and depending on the circumstances. Some people keep lists... makes it easy. Sometimes it's hard to tell. I can put a ring of different foods around my dog to see which one she will eat first. And she just goes to the nearest treat or the one I put down first, even tho she doesn't get to start until they're all down, and hovers around the arc of treats. Does not go to her faves first.

    I can only tell what she likes best by how distracting she finds it, and how hard she works for it.

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    Hyacinth
    Got a quote from the dog trainers you reccommended. Who can afford this kind of help? Below an extract from email received:

    ""There are two options I can offer you. The first would be a full consultation with Kathy. This would be for 2 to 2.5 hours and cost $420. The alternative would be a shorter consultation for 1.5 hours and cost $300.""

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    OnceBitten - I totally Understand, when I seen the prices I nearly Died!!

    Which is why we are doing the training ourselves for free in preparation for a $50 6 week basic obedience course. Then another more advanced 6 week course which costs about $100-$120.

    If you can see about your local dog obedience classes they are generally cheap and can give you advice on any other problems you may have.
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    Still confused over the legitimacy of using the word "dominance" to describe a dog's behaviour.

    Articles like these on the net make me think my dog is in fact displaying dominant behaviour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oncebitten View Post
    Still confused over the legitimacy of using the word "dominance" to describe a dog's behaviour.

    Articles like these on the net make me think my dog is in fact displaying dominant behaviour.
    sorry! this one

    Dominant Dogs

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    One of the causes of the dominance is being a whole male, so maybe de-sexing is the go, usually they 'calm down' a couple of months after

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    disagree with much of that article on "dominance"

    The writer has made very detailed account of what we call "old school" dog training. Ie the stuff that doesn't understand classical or operant conditioning - both of which have been around in the dog training world for nearly 50 years now. In fact Pavlov's stuff is well over 100 years old now and the article does not seem to acknowlege the power of that training method and attributes a multitude of bad behaviours to other mythical causes.

    I also disagree that desexing makes much difference. It does depend a lot on the age of the dog. Sometimes desexing makes things worse or no difference at all.

    most of it confuses "Opportunist" and "frustration" with "domineering" and "deliberate naughtiness".

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    I only got as far as the list of 'symptoms' which to me are all just things that puppies and untrained dogs do. I mean, have you ever met a pup that doesn't try to grab treats out of your hand when he thinks he can? And not obeying simple commands is a sign of dominance? It sounds like one of those dog owners who thinks that the dogs they see with nice manners and perfect obedience were just born like that. All of those things sound to me like behaviour from a dog who does not know what is expected from them.
    Last edited by Beloz; 10-27-2011 at 05:52 AM.

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    Thanks for posting guys...(girls!!)

    Of course it is my lack of training that is the cause of my dog's erratic behaviour. That lack of training (in my opinion) has contributed to the dog thinking he is on equal or higher status than us in some situations...ie. dominance..

    The hand-feeding is helping ...we trade food when he gets protective of tennis balls...we limit his access to toys.....things are improving thanks to your advice...so looks like a happy ending..cheers for that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oncebitten View Post
    Thanks for posting guys...(girls!!)

    Of course it is my lack of training that is the cause of my dog's erratic behaviour. That lack of training (in my opinion) has contributed to the dog thinking he is on equal or higher status than us in some situations...ie. dominance..

    The hand-feeding is helping ...we trade food when he gets protective of tennis balls...we limit his access to toys.....things are improving thanks to your advice...so looks like a happy ending..cheers for that!
    Personally, I think it has more to do with the dog not understanding what is expected of him. So he's just doing what dogs do, being an opportunist. But that doesn't automatically mean that he doesn't want to please you and expects you to submit to him or something like that.

    But it is great that your methods are working!

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