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    Hi Guys,
    I need some help with my 15 month old boy Diesel. Diesel is a very friendly dog i.e he will play with anything that will give him the time of day, he is protective of his house and will always bark at strangers etc but once accepted into the house he is fine.
    When he was about 6 months old we were at better pets and gardens and a 9 month old boxer pup ( who was very small compared to diesel) jumped on his head trying to play... diesel got very uptight and growled and snapped at him... from then on whenever on the lead he gets very protective, barking etc at other dogs.
    i know that some of it comes from me through the lead because he is so big and alot of people look terrified when they see him coming their way. So i often take him off the other way or hold onto him as we walk past as hes a big of a sticky beak.
    If we are stopped (e.g the other day we were out the front getting into car and a dog walked past and he went ballistic) he will bark lunge etc and i have to pull him away and sit him down. If we are walking and walk straight past the dog he will just try to turn around and sniff the other dog...
    I want to help him and i know that i am a big cause ( it doesnt help if theirs kids etc as i get so worried hell knock one down because hes so playful)
    Any help much appreciated.
    p.s sorry for the novel lol
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    Welll I have had this same Problem with Ruby and we are 70-80% fixed.

    Still working on it but amazing improvement. We were going to get a trainer in because I know little to nothing about dog training and her behavior was escalating very quickly.

    Two points - They are VERY expensive and the the good ones can be quite a wait.

    Im not sure how everyone else does it but this seams to be working with me and Ruby.

    We started from a fair distance away.

    When we are walking and she see's a dog her ears start to prick up, I say "Shoosh" and when she looks her ears lower I say "Good Girl"

    (As we are quite far i dont want to give her too much of a reward as she isnt doing that much)

    Thats how we started, then we would move a little closer and a little closer. All on separate occasions.

    When we get closer, Im saying maybe 10-15mtrs away, I make her sit next to me, every time she reacts slightly I say "shoosh" and when she stops or relaxes I say "Good Girl" and I give her a treat.

    As soon as the dog passes we start our walk again, I give her a Pat and say say "Good Girl" a couple of times.

    Now I can walk past a dog with ease and just say "Shoosh" if she starts to react and she settles right down.

    We just have to work on the lead "Meets" they are still a work in progress!

    I am Very Proud of her improvents thou and I will say a few months ago I thought she would NEVER get better!
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    Thats what i have been thinking... making him sit down and be calm until the dog walks past and then continue on... do you take treats as a reward or just a pat ?
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    That's very similar as the method I use for getting my dog to calm down around kids or people, BL.

    We use the clicker to mark that moment that she calms down. And use treats. I also don't make her sit, all she has to do is look at me which breaks that focus on the other dog/child/person.

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    Ruby is Food motivated, her favourite foods anyway. She loves Cold meats specially Silverside

    My Roomates dog is the least Food motivated dog I have ever Met, he would starve himself to get a few pats I rekon.

    So depending on your dog what will work the best!

    When this First started I tried to get her to sit and wait, because I hadnt slowly worked into it, as the dog would pass she would Lunge and bark and would be so hard to calm down. I tried food and smacking and crying NOTHING worked.

    After a few weeks of failed attemps I figured maybe throwing her in the deep end wasnt the best decision.

    I would start training from a distance, like a park where you know dogs go but you can stand quite far away.
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    oh diesel is very food orientated so i think treats will be the way. you can get his focus for a couple of seconds and then its back on the dog so i think starting at a far will be the trick and lots of reward for concentrating on me. thanks so much guys
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    There's some info that might be useful in this thread too: http://www.dogforum.com.au/dog-train...portunity.html

    I can do the 'look at that' off lead now.

    Also, just treats work sometimes to shake my dog out of an overexcited frenzy.

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    What everyone else said.

    What do you want your dog to be doing, make sure you ask for that and reward it. Starting at a distance where your dog is still paying attention and gradually over several days/sessions - closing the distance as your dog shows he can cope with being closer and still pay attention to you.

    When they're in the hyper state - they aren't really able to learn what you want. If you punish them in this state, they may blame what ever it is they're focussed on and be worse next time.

    I use "leave it" and "yes" and "look at that" and "yes", ie "yes" is for when I get what I want, and she gets a treat or pat depending what she will accept at the time.

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    I use leave it for food, so I hold it at her nose and say "leave it" then "Take" when she can eat.

    Same as when I am giving her dinner.
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    yes he is not allowed dinner until he sits down and i tell him to wait while i put it down and say "go" if i dont say go and i walk off he sits and watches me walk off until i say go. sometimes ill be off in the kitchen and hes just staring like "hello mum.... im hungry here" lol hopefully we can get it under control as i dont want people thinking he is agressive because he loves other dogs.
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