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    Default She Has Forgotten Everything

    Does this happen?
    Marley, the mini, is now a year. I am trying to train her more profoundly. Started with ToT, (medium success over food), did some recall following Susan Garrett's ideas...
    And today I have twice tried to work with her retrieving the ball. And she stands there. Frozen.
    With a lot of backwards and forwards, I got her to jump on top of the ball, so I could treat her for touching the ball. But she was not even entertaining the thought of taking it to me. Just staring at me.
    I am so lost.
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    This does happen....And sometimes just finding something your dog will do and rewarding that and stopping for the day is the best thing. Start again tomorrow and see how it goes. Maybe add some excitement or fun play. Sometimes we demand to much from our puppers at training and it all get a little confusing for them. It sounds like you are working hard and trying many different things. Go back to basics and slow it down.

    Because your pup has previously retrieved, it may just be a little hiccup
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    We are going through this at the moment.
    Murphy is just going back to where he was weeks ago.
    Then all of a suden when he knows I mean it he remeber just what he has to do.
    I have to admit that we have had other dogs and never noticed this. But I am not saying it never happened. I think it is more of a case that we didn't understand it.
    But yes he does forget what he has to do then all of a sudden remeber once more so it isn't too bad for us.

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    Lumping Marley.

    Ie asking too much of the dog all at once.

    Where were you trying the retrieve training - in the back yard?
    too many distractions there.

    SG starts her retrieve training in the room with the least number of possible distractions in it, and she removes all those too. Ie her dunny. So there is nothing else for the puppy to do but interact with her.

    And she does five attempts at task, then a break where they just play (with tug usually), and then she tries again. Huge party if the dog picks up the toy and puts it in her hand - and stops. And that doesn't happen the first day. And certainly doesn't happen the first time she gets out into a bigger habitat like her training barn which is chockers with distractions for a puppy.

    Don't forget to put the toilet paper back when you're done training the dog. And take the video camera out.

    I Can Recall Away From Anything, Do Amazing Tricks But . . . | Susan Garrett's Dog Training Blog

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    Guilty
    I am asking a lot... too much
    Thankyou for the reminder.

    Sometimes I don't know how to break the training tasks down.
    I have never had a role model, a trainer to observe. I rely on the net.
    And will go back to SG!!!

    I guess, Marley was ALSO frustrated after the failed retrieve. She was very quiet and followed me around in a way she has NEVER done before.
    I like her... pipsy-pie, I called her today.


    We are currently improving our relationship and I find that she gets MORE confident, after we have spent time together.
    There are no paths, paths are made by walking
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    2 Schnauzers, 1 mini girl 13 months, 1 standard boy 19 months.

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    I have chunked the work and find her improving.
    Much better on the leash
    Much better with her yapping like mad when other dogs approach
    Quieter in the yard
    More readily coming
    Eating better with less fuss
    THANKING FOR THE SUPPORT!!!!!!!!!!
    There are no paths, paths are made by walking
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    2 Schnauzers, 1 mini girl 13 months, 1 standard boy 19 months.

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    Woo hoo, way to go.

    I do love an update.

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    Practising loose leash walking.... fell behind here

    We did some good stuff... like build the yurt on our farm.... so there was completely different impact on her.... and she has forgotten one more time...

    But I watched the video on loose leash walking... practising...

    Feeding not working well any more.... when I treat her for training... she stops eating meals... the treats and the training... eating and the excitement of training... make her throw up.... I am a bit caught at the moment

    Trying to create a better bond.
    There are no paths, paths are made by walking
    www.rightnowyoga.blogspot.com
    2 Schnauzers, 1 mini girl 13 months, 1 standard boy 19 months.

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    What treats are you feeding her. And how much running around does it involve? Ie if there's lots of running - keep the treats light, soft and easy to swallow ie tiny bits of roast chicken breast are good. Or cheese.

    And reduce her dinner ration according to how much you treat. Maybe feed some of her dinner as rewards for doing simple things like sit-stays, or very short recalls - past the dinner bowl.

    PS Susan Garret is about to start Recallers 3 - if any of you want a treasure trove of relationship building games for your dogs, plus webinars (online live video feed of SG talking about how to get better recall and addressing specific questions posted in advance by members).

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    It seems to go a few steps forward and a few steps back. Our bond is getting MUCH better. She comes to me to "touch", gently touching me with her nose... whatever I am doing and then SITS. That is new, her idea and really appreciated by me.
    The leash walking works a little. Lots of soft treats. We got two hundred meters away from the house without major incidents and much pulling. Mind you: typically Australian - we met NOBODY. But she doesn't need to meet people to go off. A tree is enough. I am quite happy, because it is (WE are) moving forward.
    Will check out the RECALLER 3.

    Many many thanks!!
    There are no paths, paths are made by walking
    www.rightnowyoga.blogspot.com
    2 Schnauzers, 1 mini girl 13 months, 1 standard boy 19 months.

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