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    Red face What Do Dogs Mean to Each Other?

    I am trying to extend their "level of frustration" by doing Tot (triangle of temptation) with 11 month Marley and 18 month Schubert.
    When Schubert is not there, she will not even go near the food.
    She is waiting for Schubert to return.

    Anything I can do?
    ... or should I just not worry?

    Tot means, they were separated for eating, but they always knew the other was close.
    I do separate them for training sessions, or they go for walks individually.
    but most of the day: they spend together.
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    I think I am having a problem similar to yours. I use to have my feeding times down pat. The dogs would both sit and wait until I shaked their hands and then as soon as I did they would hoover their food down like good little dogs.

    Now its all screwed up, i don't know what went wrong. But Harley will start eating as normal but if I walk away (and also if I take bella inside to try and get her to eat there) he will stop and sit their salivating until I come back and shake his hand again. Bella won't sit, won't shake and won't eat. I can get her to eat in the morning, but I have to sit outside with them and it takes about 10 minutes of her trying to run off and me telling her to keep eating. I changed their food this month so she might not like it, but I don't know, its very frustrating!

    Sorry to hijack your thread, but I thought our issues are sort similar! So maybe someone can help us both!!

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    no worries - I don't feel hijacked
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    My dogs are always together and the competition to eat is high, they don't wait for anyone.

    I have re homed older dogs and owners have told me that the same dog that hoovered everything in sight at my place no longer gulps it's food down and sometimes leaves food behind. For the most part if I get a picture of the dog I find it is now heavier/fatter than it would of been with me so food drive has gone down.

    I also don't pander to fussy dogs, it's eat it in 15 minutes or it's gone and nothing else is offered until the next meal time.

    Some young dogs can get easily distracted by anything including the absence of another dog, or they can get a little stressed that their mate is not around.

    I guess unless the food drive is back you can't do the TOT. Are they mini, or standards? If they're mini's at their age I'd tidy up the eating habits first then return to TOT. So I'd start with a certain distance between bowls then move further and further away to get them used to eating out of sight of each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC View Post
    I also don't pander to fussy dogs, it's eat it in 15 minutes or it's gone and nothing else is offered until the next meal time.
    I've started taking Bella's food away if she doesn't eat it. I think she is just being fussy now actually. I gave gave them roast chicken for tea with their biscuits last night and she ate it will no fuss.

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    We feed our four together in a small area.......Food is eaten in a short time and everyone knows they are not allowed to hassle anyone. I give out the bowls in random order. different everyday. They stay until "tuck in" and stay with their bowls until "free". Then they can investigate if anyone has left a crumb.
    My Katy is a slow eater and the bottom of the pecking order, so it kinda drives the others nuts to have to wait and look till she is finished. I just have order from day one. And all the new Rescues seem to "get it" pretty quick. I don't like to play around to much at meal times. They have to wait quietly and just eat out of their own bowls only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by newfsie View Post
    We feed our four together in a small area.......Food is eaten in a short time and everyone knows they are not allowed to hassle anyone. I give out the bowls in random order. different everyday. They stay until "tuck in" and stay with their bowls until "free". Then they can investigate if anyone has left a crumb.
    My Katy is a slow eater and the bottom of the pecking order, so it kinda drives the others nuts to have to wait and look till she is finished. I just have order from day one. And all the new Rescues seem to "get it" pretty quick. I don't like to play around to much at meal times. They have to wait quietly and just eat out of their own bowls only.
    Come and do this with my mini and standard Schnauzer, will you?

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    my two have a race to finish. Usually pippi is done first and she then starts hovering around Barneys bowl until he gets to "licking phase" and then she moves in and takes over for him.

    My two are both gannets (NZ slang for someone who eats all the time) and so any ooportunity to eat is swiftly accepted whether the other is there ornot. In saying that, they are always together

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    It is stop and go. Trail and error.

    When I am writing about it, like I do here, and hear what you are commenting about it, I start feeling better, because I tackle the problem and it is getting better.
    Today she, 1yr old female mini, ate half a sausage, under ToT conditions.
    TO MY SURPRISE.

    Schubert, the 18 month Standard, is responding so well to TOT and I can quickly move forward with him.
    In the morning, when she walked away from the food, I took it away after 3 minutes. Either at once or nothing. Birds came into the yard.... don't want that. hmmmmmmmmm....

    I am also watching Susan Garrett as recommended by Hyancinth and try to follow her training ideas. It feels good. Got lots of chicken in the fridge...
    She is not showing work with Schnauzers....

    And I NOW train them separately and I feed them separately and spend some 'quality time' with them alone. Rigorously.
    Last edited by Marley; 09-30-2011 at 06:18 PM. Reason: typos
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    I do spend time alone with my dogs...I train my dogs as individuals, but they are all there. I do the lion trainer thing. Those not being worked are on the box. We have four timber boxes that they sit on. And I train one at the time, whilst the others look on. When one moves off the box i just put them back. It teaches control....And they seem to learn by osmosis. Especially katy, she watches training and seems to know what i expect of her next.
    When I do Obedience training I put my dogs in a drop and train one at the time in our horse Arena. I also put two dogs in a sit/stay and do our figure eights....now Lukey hasn't quite got all of this yet and i am still putting him back in place a lot. We just do it quietly in exactly the same spot. I do my sit/drop stays the same way...All four out , I place them and I keep them in position. It makes for really good stays, as my dogs are used to me moving around for Lukey, who is only a Beginner.
    So that is how I get around one on one with four. At the Club I work them one at the time in different classes. My two most advanced dogs only get about twenty minutes each in a one hour class. They are used to me swapping dogs. And some don't even know when I have swapped, all black dogs
    Lukey is still in the Beginner classes......
    I think it is important to give individual time, but they also need to be able to work when the other is there as a distraction
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