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    Hi Beloz

    I know how frustrating that is. I get that kind of crap from my famliy and some of my friends and some of my club instructors. Go figure.

    I did try the old ways including yank on the neck, smack on the nose, rolled up newspaper and yelling and none of it worked how I wanted at all. ie dog would turn into a floppy custard on the floor - and generally had no idea what she'd done wrong, or what I wanted her to do instead.

    So I had to learn about operant and classical conditioning or I'd have a dog that would still be at the park or beach now or squished by a car following/leading me home at a non-catchable distance.

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    I now notice the dog is training me. I think it's a good thing though.

    For example, when we are on our twice daily off-leash walk and she's been playing with a dog or dogs and both I and the other dog owner walk off in opposite directions, she will follow me but immediately stare at the treat bag expecting a treat.

    She will do the same when a jogger approaches. The other day she saw one before I did and she immediately turned round and came to me expecting a treat.

    I think it shows that she knows what is expected of her in those situations. I think maybe I would not have been as consistent with the rewards for those sort of things if she wouldn't remind me though.

    I have another question though: should I be adding a cue for these types of situations now the behaviour seems to have been enforced? Or is it not always necessary to have a cue?

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    I just revisited this post to comment on how well the "look at that" works! And it is now one of my favourite things to do with Banjo. I think it's one of those things that look oh so cute because it makes the dog look almost human.

    When I now say 'look at that' she doesn't just glance at the distraction, she really has a good old look before she looks back at me to get a reward. It's as if we're having a little conversation.

    If she could talk it would sound something like this:

    Me - "Hey, look at that!"
    Banjo - "Oh yeah, it's a little kid on a scooter. She's wearing a helmet. And her dress is flapping in the wind. Interesting, (looking back at me) isn't it?"


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    Yes it can be quite eye opening what people actually really do with their dogs, when you just observe people with their dogs. And don't realise it. But if you are honest you even notice how sometimes you do something yourself and you go Oops that won't help...I find myself in that situation sometimes, getting better at it, but sometimes catch myself out

    The thing I find the hardest to accept is all the people who say they do positive reinforcement, but still yell at their dogs. Why are people so loud around their dogs?

    Sounds like you are having fun training anyway
    Pets are forever

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