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    Does anyone have any tips for training very difficult, slow learning dogs?

    My little Abbie really is quite dumb No two ways about it, she just doesn't seem to pick anything up. One day she is happy to use the doggy door, the next she remembers she is scared of the noise it makes and attempts to jump up at the door instead..

    She has a real bad habit of jumping up for attention. Have been tying to teach her to sit for about 2 months now but she seems to find it uncomfortable and absolutely refuses to sit still for more than 2 seconds.

    I'm not expecting miracles..just some basic manners. eg. sit, stay, down etc. The type of thing it took two seconds for Buckley to learn.

    Some tell me that pointers need to be a little more mature before training (she is 8 months), however i spoke to her breeder a few days ago who seemed confused as to why she was being so difficult..

    She was even more shocked when i told her she had taken a few snaps at people..to be honest i have my suspicions about how she was socialised and treated when she was a pup.

    She really is the most ...unique dog i have ever met and i'm at a loss when it comes to teaching her how i want her to behave.

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    If you are not used to gun dogs they can appear to be a little bit slow. You have to find what motivates her, be consistent and patient.

    They are not dumb but have a much more "whats in it for me" attitude than I was used to; with maturity it seems to change. She also went thru stages where if a pot plant was moved it was suddenly a scary thing, but she grew out of it and is one of the most outgoing dogs I know.

    It was a real shock to the system when I first started with my Gordon Setter after years and years of owning Kelpies.

    Over the years at training I've found that Goldens have neat trick of just laying down on the job if they don't feel like doing something, like they are tired, my Gordon was much the same if I didn't mix things up and keep training sessions very short.

    I trained my Gordon and a much younger Whippet to do a 20mtr send away on a mat. I was using her name to get her attention, Gemma took the whole Gemma - pause - mat as the command. If I left out Gemma she had no idea what I was talking about .

    After about 12 months of age the frustration with training disappeared, it was almost like while she was growing she couldn't concentrate or absorb much of anything.

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    Thanks Mac, i grew up with two German Shorthaired Pointers, who breezed through puppy school and picked up sit,shake etc. pretty quickly but i do remember them having a problem with jumping up. It wasn't until they reached adulthood, that it stopped.

    I must admit i have quite a short temper at times and think she would probably benefit more from some kind of formal training that we could do together. I did plan on joining an obedience class but time got away from me and i missed the registration. Next term i will join!

    She has made a bit of progress with people which makes me happy..when we first got her she only let myself and my partner pat her. My parents come over to visit most weekends and she will now run up to them tail wagging. She is a nervous wreck around most dogs but had recently started to initiate play with Buckley.

    The doggy door just really baffles me. This morning i was inside preparing breakfast for the dogs and she was crying at the door wanting to get in. Buckley kept running in and out of it as if to say "look it's easy, follow me" but nope. I had the lift the flap for her to come in. Other days she walks through no worries at all.

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    Hi Tiff-689

    Always be aware of when the dog is training you instead of the other way around - that's what the dog door story makes me think.

    I thought my dog was thick as two short planks, she seemed really slow - really bad recall until she was about 14 months old - not like our previous heeler x - who had all that super reliable at 3 months. Frosty still only fetches the ball "sometimes". And she tries every sneaky thing she knows to get me to chase her cos she loves that game.

    A lot of naughty things she does - like barking a lot - I have managed to reduce by training her to do them on command. So I have a command for bark/speak, for go sniff, go play, dig-dig etc. Then she knows when she's allowed and when she isn't and with the barking - it shuts her right up while she thinks about what she's supposed to do for the treat and because I reward on a very quiet noise - that's all she makes.

    The jumping, I only let her to the front door when she's on lead and if its someone who gets her really excited eg the lawn mower man - I stand on the lead so she can't jump at all. She can grovel - so she does that instead.

    Focus on what you do want, and remember to reward that. Priase, tail rubs, ear pats, treats, attention - all good. And if you practice a bit of free shaping - it helps with all training ie getting the dog to try different stuff so you can reward what you want.

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    Start to train with the dog door, luring her thru with food. If you can, take the flap off for a while? Perhaps tape a soft fabric there in it's place then return the door once she's got the hang of that.

    My Gordon never jumps as I was very strict with everyone to never pick her up and to never reward her in anyway for jumping or rough behaviour as she was going to be a big dog. We are the same with our Borzoi, the Whippets we don't really bother with.

    I had a dog door at an old house, can't say my dogs were all that keen on it, it was large and swung back with a bang, however if they heard a cat fight or something they could go thru the thing at a rate of knots no problem whatsoever.

    I find some gundogs have a very much "whats in it for me" attitude rather than live to please our master attitude. Well my Gordon certainly does.

    I would suspect with a pointer that the dog door has to be quite big, your other dog is probably pushing on it much lower where it has much less resistance too.

    Your puppy sounds like it needs lots of careful positive socialisation to build it's confidence up.
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    train her wil play ing with her
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    Abbie sounds adorable nawwwww

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    Ruby = Dumb as a post haha She makes up for it with her gorgeous face! In saying that I am about as dumb as two sharp sticks and a tic tac so we suit each other!
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    Miley is a doofus too... bless her heart lol

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    Bernie is not motivated by food/praise. He wont eat or drink when working at all.
    What motivates my dog to do as he's asked is my motivation it seems.

    He knows when im sick, and less vigalent and picky about obedience, and tries his luck.

    He knows when im cross, and crumbles and is useless to work with, so i dont train if i feel agitated from work etc.

    I think your dog is training you here. Its not dumb. Its a very clever dog indeedy lol

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