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    I had no idea how my dog Banjo would react to roos. My last dog was actually a kangaroo dog - so very high prey drive. I never really got her out of chasing them and she brought 3 down in her 11 years. Before she actually caught one, I didn't worry too much about it and I must admit that I always thought it was such a sight to behold when she chased them. Her speed and agility was remarkable. As she got older she lost that speed and it wasn't much of an issue anymore.

    But I don't want to have to worry about it with Banjo. Not just because of the risk that she might injur a roo, chase it across a busy road or run across a road herself (though that is the worst case scenario!), but also because dogs have been killed by roos here, especially near water, which is where we usually meet them.

    So today near the lake, we met a mob of about 20 kangaroos. I saw them before the dog did (most dogs are so bad at seeing stationary animals!) so put her on the lead. Then walked her around, getting to within about 10 meters of them at times, and rewarded her for not pulling the lead and for even the slightest glance in my direction. She was quite funny to watch. She ate her treats like a robot, I don't think she even registered she was eating them, but the clicker never lies, so I kept treating her. She also sat automatically whenever I said her name or stopped when she pulled - that's a pretty good result!

    She lunged forward once when a little mob fled. But then sat down again when she felt the lead.

    I don't think Banjo has as strong a prey drive as my old dog (would be hard to find a dog who has!). But I saw the signs nevertheless. She got a bit stressed when she could not move when they hopped away. A bit of a whimper, even a shiver. And then the one front leg went up, hunting dog style.

    I don't know if this exercise was actually useful or if it just made her more aware of the existence of kangaroos! But I want to be proactive in this now she is still young.

    Any other tips on teaching dogs to not chase wildlife? Also, do you have to teach them not to chase any wildlife for this to work? I don't mind her chasing wild rabbits at all!

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    Thats great, it's a type of stock proofing and it can be done against all types of animals, domestic, wild natives, feral species etc. You just have to be consistent. If you are in Qld, well lots of places now it seems, I urge people to stock proof against cane toads especially.

    It certainly helps with the stress levels lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beau View Post
    Thats great, it's a type of stock proofing and it can be done against all types of animals, domestic, wild natives, feral species etc. You just have to be consistent. If you are in Qld, well lots of places now it seems, I urge people to stock proof against cane toads especially.

    It certainly helps with the stress levels lol.
    With 'being consistent' do you mean that I should not allow her to chase anything, eg. rabbits or birds? I don't really like her chasing birds, but it's pretty harmless and she'll probably grow out of it when she finally realises how futile it is. But I do love watching a dog chase feral rabbits and I don't care if they catch them. (Is that bad of me?!)

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    I have successfully trained a high prey drive dog to "wait" when she sees anything she want to chase. It is my Border Collie cross Golden Retriever and she loves to chase given the choice. I taught "wait" on long lead (40')......I am sure she thinks it is always on her. And I rewarded her when she did "wait".
    We do chase rabbits, mice, rats and currawongs with her. But I can stop her with roos and any other wildlife, when I am there. I have stopped her mid-flight after she got out of the car window. We were going very slow 4 wheel driving, warm day windows open. She spotted a fallow deer and flew out of the car. it took a moment to realise she was out. I called her name and "wait", she stopped dead.........So it can be done.
    We do a lot of Obedience, our dogs trial and we do agility. So if you are prepared to train, you can do it.
    Now my Rescue newf is another matter, she needs to be stopped before she is running. Once she is running, she seems to go deaf. If you get the "wait" in before she runs, all is good. Mind you she does not go far, even when she does chase.
    The other two newfies say "what wildlife?" they just do not chase, no prey drive at all LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by newfsie View Post
    Now my Rescue newf is another matter, she needs to be stopped before she is running. Once she is running, she seems to go deaf. If you get the "wait" in before she runs, all is good.
    That's like my old dog. Though only sometimes did I manage to stop her from giving chase. She was lightning fast. And once she'd taken that first stride, there was no stopping her. And still, god I miss that dog!

    So what you are saying is that if I use a cue, I should be able to successfully prevent her from chasing roos, but still allow her to chase rabbits.

    Also, with the long lead - which I want to use to train recall anyway - how do you use it? You just step on it when you want to stop the dog? Isn't there a risk that a flat lead will just slip from under your foot if it's on grass? I'm not very strong and also have a pretty fragile back that doesn't deal with sudden jolts very well.
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    My 40' lead is a rope with quite a few knots at the end, just for that reason.
    My hubby is a sailor and the rope has some very flash knots in it. the last one is a "turks-head".

    And yes it is teaching a cue, which becomes a muscle memory. We use "wait" agility and I use it a lot when we are going for walks. Practice makes perfect
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    Cool, I'll give that a go. And if that doesn't work, I found this a fascinating method too: How do I stop my dog chasing? – David Ryan CCAB Not as versatile though as you always need to throw a toy!

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    David Ryan is really good........If your dog loves toys, it is a good way to go
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    Cool, I love discovering all this fascinating dog training advice. I wish I would've gone looking for it when I had my old dog, would've saved me a lot of trouble.

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    I'd like to stock proof my dog against the local treat lady. Argh.

    At least she comes away from her when I call now, which is an improvement. If my timing is good, I can stop her from going, (better), but that usually involves spotting treat lady first and putting evil hound on lead before she notices treat lady.

    With horses, I do what Beloz describes (without the clicker but with verbal yes and good dogs), and I also block the view with my body and reward attention on me.

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