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    I am from Europe and not at all used to snakes and although my dog is an Ozzie, I don't think she knows how to avoid one. As we live rural I am absolutely terrified that when it warms up she will get bitten by a snake.

    Can you please give me advise on how to teach her to stay away from snakes. Are there any devices that can keep snakes away from the fenced area my dog is usually in?

    When are snakes usually most active? Where do they hang out and where don't they like to go?

    Any advise will help. Its not summer yet, but spring is around the corner and I do not want to loose my dog! She is a 12 month old Golden Retriever.

    Thanks!

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    Most dogs cannot resist the lure of chasing a snake so making the area your dog is in as unappealing to a snake as possible I think would be a better option than the training methods.

    Snakes are most active in warm weather, last week in Sydney we had a 25degree day and the dogs found a diamond python, not deadly but the snake wasn't in good condition when I found it and had it been a RBBS or Brown I doubt my dogs would have been in good shape.

    Keep the areas that the dog is allowed in free from undergrowth, keep the area free from rubbish like old building materials etc as snakes love to call these places home.

    This year I'm determined to get a few of those Electronic Snake Repellers to see how they go. It emits a vibration through the earth, which the snake feels through its body. Perceiving a danger zone most snakes will retreat. There are mixed reviews about them but I'm willing to give them a go.

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    Yes. What Mac says. Make the area as unattractive for them as possible.

    I live on a farm and snakes here can be quite a problem.
    I have used hay baling netting around outside fences an a better job of it will be done this year. Many reptile lovers do not like this as the snake gets caught in it and dies from the sun's heat. Netting has to go from the ground up to a couple of feet on the fence. Snakes though will go along the fence line till they see a place to go in.

    I bought 8 repellers. The jury is still out on if they work or not. I know I do have one faulty one.
    May this year while I was away a RRB got into the pen. My dog Jodi had it in her mouth and it was striking at her head. Hubby got it away from them and killed it. My guess is with a shovel which we always have nearby. Getting the shot gun would have taken too much time.

    All three dogs were rushed to the vet over an hour away and instead of waiting to see if they were developed bite symptoms we opted for a test...$700 each.
    They were in the clear but one dog had antibodies for a death adder...wow. Must have been when they packed and ran off before the pen was built. He had no symptoms. Until the pen was built I would always watch them closely for 2 hours if they managed to run off around the farm.

    Our biggest problem is brown snakes. The RRB kill them so we are loath to kill them EXCEPT when they are far too close to the house. As far as I am concerned I am happy for them to go where they want other than near my dogs or house. My dogs and we are a more protected species than they are in that situation.

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    A couple of years ago we had a Brown snake in our yard.
    the cat actually bailed it up. So I first had to get the cat in then get back out there and hope the snake was still there, and it was.
    I got a crowbar, lucky for me it was a long one so I was out of its reach.
    I placed the edge of it on the neck region and pushed it againdt the shed wall.
    I broke its neck and then placed it in a jar.
    Which is now in the freezer as I want to put it in the plastic solution to make a paper weight.
    But you will find snakes in all area's of Australia and yes this is even in the cities to.
    I have found snake are not as active when the sun is high, as this is even too hot for them. So this gives you early morning while they are cooking their blood to keep them active and around 5ish, but this is no garentee either.
    Just watch where you step and if it moves don't step on it.

    One thing I would stop if you are doing this is throwing sticks to your dog.
    A dog wont be able to tell a bouncing stick from a slidding snake.
    That is the best I can do for you. I hope it helps.

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    Thank you all! I will carry out all the advise. I will also look into the devices. I take it they can be ordered through the net?

    Now.. I take it that it is not a good idea to have my dog wander around the property during Summer. She loves to do that... and I let her at the moment but soon I take it it is better to put her back on the leash when I walk the property. We have a gate around the house and pool so that is where she is usually during the day. I will keep that neat and clean so I can easily spot snakes.

    But what surprises me..... there are so many properties. Almost all my neighbours have dogs. They just wander around on their properties day and night, all year around. It seems so common here in Australia to have you dogs in the back yard. Am I the only one (and you that responded to this topic, thanks) who is worried?

    So you out there with properties.. you dont let you dog wander around by itself during the warmer months? And my next question.... when are they getting up those snakes? About 2 months ago... (I am in Sydney) my friend still had RBB on the property. I thought they were long asleep... So confusing!

    Also... whats the best way to kill a snake? I dont want to get to close and I do not carry a gun...

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    As for killing of snakes it is actually ileagle to do so.
    If you see one try to watch whereit goes and then find a snake wrangler.
    I am sure your vet will have a number that you can contact these brave people that come to your place and catch them for you.
    It is way better to leave them as it could very well save your life.
    I think out of the 10 most dangerous snakes in the world we have got 8 of them.
    So they are not to be played with unless you know what you are doing.
    If you can contain them like placing a bin over the top of them then wait for rescue then I would say do that. But alway watch them they are quicker than you think.

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    Shovel. I haven't done it though.
    I once had a brown right at the pen wire, poised ready to strike at the dogs a foot or so barking in the pen and right next to the shovel.
    I heard they don't like vibrations so I was a couple of meters away, giving it access to a clear path, jumped up and down as hard as I could screaming at it DON'T YOU F*****G DARE!

    It went to the ground and I watched it slither away from the pen I made sure it was continuing away. I raced inside, had to unlock the gun safe, load it and get out there but it was gone.

    Probably not a good thing to do but I was so scared and angry.
    My dogs used to stay free near the house and not wander. When the pups were old enough their bloody mother took them away to show them around.

    Then it was only one dog allowed out at a time as they did not wander when alone.
    They all accidently got out again and off they went so we built a huge pen around big shade trees and a garden shed. It had an airlock so we could go in, close it behind us and then open the gate into the pen and the dogs could not barge out. I would bring 2 from the pen to inside the house on 2 leads.

    One day one of the dogs was throwing up near the front screen door. I reflexively opened it, they all barrelled out and one came back in 2 hours, the other 2 five hours later.

    The back yard then got fenced in with the pen gates being incorporated into the design so they could be let out and could get inside without running off and the screen door is now locked so I can not accidentally let them all out again should one be throwing up at the door.
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    We have peacocks and geese.they hate snakes and kill them. Our geese killed a brown last year........They even attack the hose when it moves. And I basically do a lot of crossing fingers (hoping nothing will happen)
    Pets are forever

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    Gee I need to get me some geese. I remember back when I was at school (Ag School) we had geese to protect and sound the alarm for the other animals.

    My dogs wouldn't like to live cooped up. I have just over an acre of fenced yard that they roam free in. Then we have very thick bush which they are only allowed in when we are walking with them. We also have large boulders (rocks) that would be snake sun-baking heaven inside the fenced area and we make sure the grass around it is whipper snippered within an inch of it's life

    I lost one of my Kelpies to a brown snake many years ago while staying on my uncles farm. It was inside the small fenced house yard, so here was a dog that roamed hundreds of acres and was killed within a few feet of the back door.

    Prior to living here I lived on a normal suburban sized block and one day found next doors cat playing with a small RBB.

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    Threads like this make me sad.

    There's no use shouting at them. They don't have ears, so it doesn't effect them one bit. The scams that claim to keep snakes away by making vibrations or smells don't work either, so don't even waste your money. The best way to keep snakes away from your yard is to keep it unappealing to them. Remove anything that could be a nice home for them (sheets of scrap metal, piles of leaves or wood, etc), and also try to control any rats or mice.

    A snake that wanders onto your property doesn't deserve to die. It's also illegal. I realise some people don't have access to one, but if you do you should always call a snake removalist before doing anything else.

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