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    Wow snakes in pools, in small yards, near back doors? I really thought they would stay away because they dont like humans and the vibrations. What about horses? Do snakes stay away from paddocks with horses because of the vibrations or is that a myth too? I am getting more terrified now. I have decided that my dog will not wander around anymore on the property as soon as it is going to warm up. I will be more careful. Funnel webs in pools??? Is that really true? So scary.
    I dont want to kill snakes, but if it is my dog or the snake then that is a very easy choice.

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    There is such a thing as being too careful. Yes there is the risk, but there is also a risk that you could get hit by a car the next time you cross a street, or slip and fall next time you have a shower. Is that going to stop you crossing a road or showering?

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    I agree with AngelanBatty.

    You have to weigh up what the risks are. And I think this thread might give you a wrong idea of how high they are. Don't get me wrong, snakes are common in summer. And I have only met the NSW ones. But to my knowledge, most snakes on the East Coast are not aggressive. Ie, they will move away if they can when they hear a big animal approaching.

    I have a friend who would never let his dogs run through long grass in summer (put them on the lead) because of the risk of them stepping on a snake. I always decided to let my dog take that risk. We walked our dogs together regularly for years. Both our old dogs died of cancer at a fairly old age. But mine had had all those hours of freedom that his hadn't had. And I still think that was worth the risk. Even if she would've died of a snake bite, at least she would have died doing what she loved doing most.

    I hope you get to see your dog's reaction to snakes and that he does also have an instinctive respect for snakes. That greatly reassured me and I knew I could trust my dog not to do anything stupid. She also backed off when a roo she tried to chase turned around to confront her. Most dogs do have some common sense...

    I didn't grow up in Australia. And I have learnt that Australians love telling the scariest stories about dangerous animals. But I quickly decided that I would not let the wildlife rule my life! I've encountered many a snake on my walks and I still scream when one gets too close. But I refuse to let them bully me into avoiding places that I love to go. With my dog!


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    Quote Originally Posted by maxx View Post
    Wow snakes in pools, in small yards, near back doors? I really thought they would stay away because they dont like humans and the vibrations. What about horses? Do snakes stay away from paddocks with horses because of the vibrations or is that a myth too? I am getting more terrified now. I have decided that my dog will not wander around anymore on the property as soon as it is going to warm up. I will be more careful. Funnel webs in pools??? Is that really true? So scary.
    I dont want to kill snakes, but if it is my dog or the snake then that is a very easy choice.
    Maxx - some snakes might stay away - but there would have to be people coming and going all the time. And usually there are times when there are not. Eg the feed shed that was full of mice, had lots of people in the mornings and the evenings but not often during the day on a weekday. So the snake lived there quite happily. Snakes will travel at night in warm weather too and there's not usually too much people traffic then either. And some snakes eg mulga snakes and king brown snakes - just aren't bothered by people and don't make any effort to avoid them.

    And horses are occasionally bitten by snakes. My horse nearly trod on one when I was riding him. My friend saw it but me and my horse never saw it. It was trying to clear off but even walking - we had managed to surprise it. That was a brown snake. All of those I've seen have tried very hard to get away when they meet a bigger animal but they're not always successful and then they will rear up and hiss and strike if the whatever is too close.

    I don't know much about funnel webs. I don't live in areas where they are a problem. For redbacks - they tend to be easy to spot or likely places and they don't chase you. They'd rather hide. And I usually (sorry spider lovers) spray surface spray where I don't want them. There's lots in my gargage / store room right now, which I really should do something about cos I need to clear it out a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloz View Post
    Ie, they will move away if they can when they hear a big animal approaching.
    How owuld they hear a big animal approaching? I am sure I read a post in here that said they don't have ears.

    Do they hear or feel vibrations then? I need to know whether to enter the backyard yelling and screaming, or stomping my feet as hard as possible LOL

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    On the spider side I don't know if you know this so I wil say it.

    The Daddy Longlegs Spider is more venomours than the Redback Spider.
    The difference lie's in the size of the fangs. The Redback has got fangs that can pierce your skin so this makes it dangerous, while the Daddy Longlegs has real small fangs and can not pierce your skin, thus making this one not dangerours. And we can now throw in the Huntsman spider. A very scary looking spider but can do us no harm at all. Apart from scaring the poop out of you when it drops on you.

    On the Sydney Funnel Web spider, I know not much, though I watched this show on spiders and it showed the Funnel web taking down an air bubble with it to the bottom of this pool. So yes they do go into water and Swimming pools.
    Now on this I am a little unsure but I think they either said that cats are immune to them or it could have been the other way around. Just look that one up if you are where these buggers are.

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    Yeah, when I said "hear" I meant they feel vibrations. The common advice is always to stomp your feet when you walk through the bush, which isn't always practical!

    Not to add to the fear () but I saw a talk on Funner Webs at the Manly aquarium once in which they demonstrated why you should never try to squash one with your foot. Because of the size and shape of their fangs, they can go through thick shoe soles! A force to be reckoned with...

    We have redbacks everywhere in our backyard and garage. I'll occasionally hose them off the garden furniture, but for the most part I just leave them. They're not aggressive and we just take care when we pick things up. The creepiest spider we have around here is the whitetail. They definitely are aggressive and like being inside the house too. I know lots of people now claim that they are not dangerous - based on only one study, mind you - but I don't buy it. Heard too many stories. They are the only spider I will kill on sight.

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    the white tail venom isn't particularily dangerous to humans. It's the bacteria on their fangs that causes problems. Ie they bite, they infect you with hard to kill bacteria and your wound gets infected and ulcercates and won't heal up. Gross.

    But given how many of them are around - you think you'd hear about this more often. More chance of being injured in a car crash.

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    There is qanother spider to watchout for this is the Gloden Orb Spider.
    Much the same thing like the White Tail, but a lot of these are found in grape vines.

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