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    Default Problem Female Bull Arab Help Needed Asap

    Hi All,

    Im new to this forum so I hope this is the correct place to post this thread.

    I have a beautiful 2.5 year old female Bull Arab. I have had her since she was 6 weeks old, The dog was given to me from a friend of mine who lived on a farm.

    My dog Kara comes from a hunting background, however I have never ever used her for hunting. She is a beautiful white Bull Arab. She loves affection and a lot of attention.

    When Kara was young my father and I would take her to the dog park just about everyday possible if not twice a day. Until one day she just turned on one dog and never was the same.

    In December 2009, she was taken to a boarding home for 3 weeks. I came across a website it said he was NUMBER 1 in Sydney for dog training and guard dog training. Long story short, my dog came back a completely different dog.

    We took her to the dog park and she attacked two dogs. Since then she attacked a small dog but nothing happen to it other than a $2500 fine from council. (Another long story- don’t worry the dog was fine and was check by the vet)

    My reason for this Post is that I need a GOOD TRAINER someone that can take the dog realise that every dog is friendly. We just can’t walk Kara without having eyes in the back of our heads.

    Ive had back busters come, ive had dog trainers all charge me money and can all a sure me that they will make her change but everyone is just full of it.

    So what can I do, or who do you know.

    Please email me or call or post on here I need to have her sorted out ASAP.

    Thank you Adrian 0402 433 371

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    Never send your dog away to live with a trainer. You need a trainer to come out to your home and watch how you interact with your dog in your home and how you walk your dog so that they can give you advise based on that and give you a plan to help you dog and to manage her issues.

    Some dogs are just dog aggressive that is how it is. I have a female Bull Arab (which is not a recognized breed and is actually a mix of Bull Mastiff X Dane X Ridgies etc) who is now almost 4 who is dog aggressive and very reactive. The only thing I can do is manage her. She will never again go to a dog park because I will never again trust her not to possible start something. I have never let her be in a position where she could attack another dog and I will never put her in that position.

    Do not take Kara to the dog park, do not take her anywhere off leash otherwise the next dog she gets could be seriously injured or they could fight back and Kara could be seriously injured. On top of that you are risking having your dog declared dangerous which comes with very hard restrictions including never being off your property without a muzzle, a special collar that shows she is a "dangerous dog", you will have to build a fully enclosed run in your yard and have signs around your house saying you have a dangerous dog. Lots of money and not a great life for your dog.

    Please do not be one of the irresponsible owners we often vent about on here who take their aggressive dogs to the park, be responsible do what it right for your dog. And if you are thinking that Kara will miss the interaction with other dogs, guess what she WONT! taking her into a situation where she feels she needs to attack a dog means she is uncomfortable and unhappy. She will be happier going on walks or hikes and staying at home and playing in the backyard with you.

    Please be responsible.

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    Are you near Sydney?

    If so I highly recommend you call Steve from K9 Pro
    K9 Pro The K9 Professionals; Dog Training and Behaviour Site

    He will organise an in home consultation and he will be able to help you. That doesn't mean she will ever be dog friendly again but he can give you the right advise.

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    Would deffinately agree do not take her anywhere where it is common for dogs to be offlead. Before I would take her out anywhere I would but a muzzle for her so if by chance she does run into another dog it will prevent limbs being ripped off.

    Like K & P said she may just be dog aggressive, which I have noticed alot of dog aggressive dogs usually share their home with another dog. go figure!

    If you have already stated that you have had trainers come out and still nothing, then I dont know what to suggest.

    She might just be who she is, with that brings alot of resposibility on your behalf to keeping everyone safe.

    Hope someone else has better advice for you.

    Goodluck!
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    When Kara was young my father and I would take her to the dog park just about everyday possible if not twice a day. Until one day she just turned on one dog and never was the same.

    In December 2009, she was taken to a boarding home for 3 weeks. I came across a website it said he was NUMBER 1 in Sydney for dog training and guard dog training. Long story short, my dog came back a completely different dog.

    We took her to the dog park and she attacked two dogs. Since then she attacked a small dog but nothing happen to it other than a $2500 fine from council. (Another long story- don’t worry the dog was fine and was check by the vet)
    I am confused about this bit.

    You say she attacked a dog one day at the park, THEN you sent her off for training for 3 weeks you then imply that she came back a different dog and attacked 2 dogs at the park...

    From what you have said your dog already had issues hence the first attack and the reason you sent her off. So saying the attack of two dogs at the dog park had anything to do with the 3 weeks she was away doesn't make sense.

    She is dog aggressive. Most dogs will be fine and then as they reach maturity (2 - 3 years for dogs of this size) they often become less tolerant or dog aggressive. It is just how these things go.

    Call Steve from K9 Pro he will be able to help you build a plan to manage and possible improve her behaviour.

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    I also recommend Steve at K9pro

    I don't understand why you would believe a website that plugs itself as number 1. I can take a pretty good guess at which place you went to and there is no way I'd ever let them near my dog. NOT EVER.

    I would never ever send my dog away to be retrained either.

    Until one day she just turned on one dog and never was the same.
    I don't think a dog "just turns one day" out of the blue.

    Not unless it has a brain tumor interfering with its reasoning.

    Every dog I've seen become aggressive at our park to the point they're not welcome back - has built up to it slowly with increasing levels of unacceptable behaviour, it's never sudden and it's always the owner's fault for allowing the build up - in my opinion.

    I also think after what Kara has done, that she would have been declared dangerous and you would not be able to talk her for a walk on public property - like the footpath - without a lead and a muzzle on - let alone let her off lead at a dog park.

    There is no point sending her away to be re-trained if you don't go too and get yourselves re-trained at the same time.

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    Hi everyone,

    Firstly thank you for all your comments.

    I would like to clear up a few matters which had been mentioned.

    I took Kara to this NO1 dog trainer guy because I had to go overseas for 3 weeks. It was after I came back and picked up kara that she had become a different dog, it was after the 3 week training that she had attacked her first dog.

    I failed to mention that she gets on with some dogs but very rarely. My father and I always keep other dogs away since she has turned on one 2 or 3 dogs. However, my friend who has a red nose pit-bull which are suppose to be the most dangerous dogs that people say they are Kara loves playing with her they play for hours and hours. There is a lady that lives opposite my house and she has a very old kelpie that Kara knew form a young age, she gets on well with the kelpie and has never ever tried to attack the dog.

    We were at the park one day and Kara came across a German Sheppard that she had never ever met before, the owner said just take her off the leash she will be fine. And guess what they played Kara was scared of the German Sheppard. There is another local dog it’s a bullmastiff x something, about the same size, male and they play for long periods of time he plays rough with Kara but she never ever turns. Their or two other dogs that she gets on well with also they are female dogs and are a lot smaller than Kara ones is a small poodle x something and the other is a schnauzer.

    I always walk Kara with a soft muzzle in my pocket, and I will never let her hurt anyone else’s dog.

    Also when she has tried too attack a dog, she never has grabbed hold of them to hurt the dog, its more of a snip to say “go away now don’t come near my owner”.

    Ive seen other dogs fight but Kara doesn’t seem to be a fighter. So I think she is either trying to be extremely dominant or she’s just not friendly?

    I look forward to what ever else you have to say thank you.

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    You said in your first post that she "attacked" otger dogs now you are saying that she snapped at other dogs. Those are two extremely different things.

    Your dog has matured and wan't take the same shit as she did as a pup. If all she is doing is snapping with no follow through then she is just telling them off for whatever reason. Maybe they approached her rudely, maybe they played to rough etc etc. It is nothing to worry about as she is just doing what all dogs will do.

    If however she is following through ie: trying to bite the other dog that is a different story.

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    Have you considered doing what would be considered by most and that is to have the dog destroyed. What gives you the right to keep a dog who attacks other innocent animals at your command. I hope you get fined alot more than 2500 dollars next time and that you also receive a jail sentence for being so senseless
    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian-kara View Post
    Hi All,

    Im new to this forum so I hope this is the correct place to post this thread.

    I have a beautiful 2.5 year old female Bull Arab. I have had her since she was 6 weeks old, The dog was given to me from a friend of mine who lived on a farm.

    My dog Kara comes from a hunting background, however I have never ever used her for hunting. She is a beautiful white Bull Arab. She loves affection and a lot of attention.

    When Kara was young my father and I would take her to the dog park just about everyday possible if not twice a day. Until one day she just turned on one dog and never was the same.

    In December 2009, she was taken to a boarding home for 3 weeks. I came across a website it said he was NUMBER 1 in Sydney for dog training and guard dog training. Long story short, my dog came back a completely different dog.

    We took her to the dog park and she attacked two dogs. Since then she attacked a small dog but nothing happen to it other than a $2500 fine from council. (Another long story- don’t worry the dog was fine and was check by the vet)

    My reason for this Post is that I need a GOOD TRAINER someone that can take the dog realise that every dog is friendly. We just can’t walk Kara without having eyes in the back of our heads.

    Ive had back busters come, ive had dog trainers all charge me money and can all a sure me that they will make her change but everyone is just full of it.

    So what can I do, or who do you know.

    Please email me or call or post on here I need to have her sorted out ASAP.

    Thank you Adrian 0402 433 371

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    John do you know the person who started this thread?
    I find it strange someone would start off his first post by attacking another person.

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