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    Sorry for the long post, but I'd really really appreciate any advice

    My Shar Pei, Gypsy, is around 18 months old. We picked her up from a Shar Pei rescue centre in Melbourne (so she's spent time with lots of other Pei's). She's a little small for a Shar Pei, but generally a lovely, really placid nature.

    Unfortunately, we've only had the chance to socialise her with a couple of other dogs - mostly just brief encounters while walking her (one didn't go well when there was a bit of a snap and snarl between her and 3 labradors, but nothing serious). When walking her she always gets real excited and pulls hard when she sees another dog, and we are going to take her to classes but we just haven't had the chance yet.

    We've had to head back to stay with my partner's parents for a bit, and Gypsy has had to come with us. Only problem is, the parents have 2 dogs - a labrador and a staffy. Unfortunately, last night when we arrived things went a little awry and instead of the controlled meeting we planned, both of the other dogs came inside at once. The combination of 2 dogs wondering who's in their house, and the smaller Pei being intimidated when 2 larger dogs are in her face sniffing her meant that the outcome was inevitable. Not sure who snapped first - may actually have been Gypsy, but there was a fight between the 3. She has a few small wounds but nothing serious.

    While Gypsy was locked in our bedroom, when she heard the others out the back this morning she got very, very anxious.

    We just tried a controlled meet with the labrador (who's the more placid of the two) by bringing only him inside to meet Gypsy, and had them both on leashes in case things went bad. Eventually we released the leash and gave them time to investigate each other. His tail was mostly wagging but seemed unsure of what to make of her. Her tail wagged a little, but mostly seemed very tense, and after a while just wanted to hide behind/beside us. The fact that the lab likes to mount other dogs doesn't help - gypsy may well have snapped when he did if we weren't there.

    We haven't done a meet with the staffy yet, but she's the more boisterous one and the more likely to be aggressive.

    Any advice on how to get them all to meet each other - and to get comfortable to each other? a 1 on 1 meet is one thing, but any advice on how to get her comfortable so she doesn't feel intimidated when they're both around her? And not feel like we have to constantly supervise 'just in case'

    She's running around the house feeling quite anxious at the moment (like I said, she's normally quite calm).

    We do have a thundershirt, but weren't planning on using it for this. We're here for a month, and while we may have other housing options we'd prefer to get this sorted out.

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    When we were first trying to socialise Ruby, even thou from the second she came home she shared her space with a Jack russell cross, Im talking about outside dogs.

    I Used to put her on the lead, let her have a bit of a sniff. 80% of the time it would end up in a dog fight. Nothing serious, just growing and carrying on. Enough to not want you to ever try it again.

    I Came to to the conclusion that she just didn't like other dogs.

    Then after getting some advice I took her to the dog park and let her socialise off the lead. I was crapping my pants when the first dog arrived!

    She was great thou, after talking to a few owners there it seams that its very common for dogs to turn into "Working" dogs when the leash is on. They are in a protective state with whoever is on the other side of the leash.
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    The best way for dogs to meet each other is on a walk. While on a walk there are many distractions- it's not so intense as the greeting is broken up with smells and sights. Even better if you can let them off lead after a while of walking. Then just head back home, you will probably find that the walk has diffused the situation a little.

    Shar Pei's are prone to fighting with other dogs, continued positive socialisation is a must for this breed. Lots of time needs to be invested in this, I would be looking at your dog meeting at least three new dogs per week (at a minimum).

    Basic obedience will also be a must for your dog. If she has no other behaviours to rely on she is simply going to do whatever works for her, which may not be the best option. If you can have good recall, heel, and focus on me, these skills will get you out of most sticky situations.

    Good luck
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    I've heard the same thing about walking - unfortunately it's going to be raining here all week (I also figure that meeting in neutral territory would've been better for the dogs that live here, rather than have them deal with an intruder).

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    When I brought my female home for the first time, an unfortunate set of events saw my male having to be put into a crate right beside the female's crate. She attacked, the wire crates saved us. In the nick of time I managed to shove cardboard between the crates.

    For the next week and a half, the dogs were kept separate, but walked together 'in a pack'. My mum helped by handling one dog. I handled the other. It took 2 weeks, but it worked.

    IMO a bit of rain shouldn't stop you being able to do this unless one or all of the dogs has a medical problem with getting wet? Pop some raincoats on (humans and dogs) and get out there walking.

    Best, quickest solution I know of.

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    Did some 1 on 1 introductions with both dogs today. Gypsy seems fairly comfortable with the lab, but still a bit edgy with the more boisterous staffy, however both their tails were wagging.

    Funnily enough, the staffy was licking Gypsy's face, then Gypsy rolled over and exposed her stomach, but they both seemed to get a bit edgy at all this. So, not sure what to do with that, and the staffy in particular needs more work as their boisterousness will easily get out of hand, but we're making progress.

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    Glad to hear it went well With a few more meeting all should be fine!!
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    She's pretty good with the lab now, but still iffy with the staffy - they were both off the leash, and while both tails were wagging it was very uneasy, gypsy had a little snap at her but we intervened pretty quickly.

    The staffy seems to want to assert her dominance, herding into a corner, etc whereas gypsy doesn't seem to respond too well to feeling intimidated. Still got a bit of work to do with this one, it seems

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    I also have an unsocialised dog, although he's a bit older then your dog. Up until recently it wasn't an issue, however now I'm going to be moving into my boyfriend's house where they already have a staffy and his sister visits regularly with a kelpie cross and a bull arab puppy.

    I personally don't like on-lead introductions because my dog becomes very defensive whilst on-lead and he's far more likely to snap at the other dog (at least while inside a house or at a dog park- walkies is different).

    Why are you intervening over a snap? The dogs need to learn their boundaries with one another, and your dog needs to learn her place with the dogs that already live there. A quick snap and a bark is nothing to worry over, someone just pushed a boundary the other didn't like. When it continues, and a fight is quickly on the way is the only time I would intervene, personally.

    My dog is very edgy and easily excited. He's finds any kind of chasing game irresistible, even if it's that horrid staffy he's chasing She (the staffy) seems like a perfect cross between submissive and assertive. She's drop and roll when another dog stands over her, but if he's in her face too much she'll snap and tell him off. He leaves her alone, and all is good and well.

    I do think two big dogs in your dog's face at once for their first meeting would be a bit much, but as she gets used to the lab I don't see any reason to not let them all together and monitor for any disagreements. Remember they have to sort each other out as well. Growling and having a slight nap every now and again is normal, doesn't mean they won't be friends in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silvershadowwolf24 View Post

    Why are you intervening over a snap? The dogs need to learn their boundaries with one another, and your dog needs to learn her place with the dogs that already live there. A quick snap and a bark is nothing to worry over, someone just pushed a boundary the other didn't like. When it continues, and a fight is quickly on the way is the only time I would intervene, personally.
    I agree
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