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    Default D og Training Cen tre Ber kshire P ark Sydney?

    We are seriously contemplating sending Gigha down to Sydney to be obiedence and bait trained at the above mentioned place. She would be there for 2 weeks and cost us about $700. For this she comes back with a lifetime gaurentee on her obiedence training and she wont eat anything people throw at her so she cant be baited.

    Has anyone had a dog go through this place or do they know of anyone who has. It is alot of money and travel for us to do but we think it would be worth it. We know we will have to keep up the training and all that jazz, we know it wont make her infalliable, it will just do what we dont have the skill, or right amount of time to do on our own.

    She can sit, stay, drop and things like that right now but not always and yes we know we can keep it going ourselves and we will likely 'get there in the end' BUT we feel this will be a better option.

    Can anyone let me know if they have any comments about this place. Good or Bad.

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    Kerrie
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    I used to know a man who worked for them, I have not been to the place but i can assure that his dog was probably the most well trained i have come across, thats the gu ard do g train ing cent re you are talking about with the german shepherd as their logo?
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    yeah that is the one. We have the DVD, we have spoken to them and crawled all over their web site but first hand stuff is always best to hear, and not by PAID people.

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    I would not send my dog away to be trained ever. If for some non medical reaspn she became really aggressive - I might send her away but I'd prefer to go with and learn because super aggressive dogs are beyond my ability to safely retrain.

    There's no point sending away unless you're there to learn how to train and maintain the training.

    There is a place in Sydney that uses methods that I regard as traumatic for the dog and I've heard reports of dogs coming back from there ruined quivering messes. But I don't know from your description if that's the place. They've got a photo of Cesar Milan on their website tho. Run away - do not go to them.

    Ps
    http://www.k9pro.com.au/pages.php?pageid=88

    The ber ksh ire place - fails on almost every point outlined in that how to choose a trainer article.

    And an obedient dog is not necessarily a happy dog. If he was trained using fear and punishment - he's not going to be happy or willing and apart from the stuff learned through trauma - he's not going to remember the training. Would you accept training to leave baits if it involved giving the dog a painful electric shock for sniffing or looking at the bait? Or would you prefer a dog to leave the bait because you haven't given it permission to eat the bait and it knows that leaving it will get it good things from you? And for the dog to even point out the bait by barking at it (ie asking permission to eat it - then you can remove the bait and reward with something safe).

    If you want help with this kind of training - I would contact Steve Courtney at K9pro.com.au and ask him to recommend someone.

    Personally no matter how well I'd trained my dog to leave baits, I'd never be sure enough to let her run where they might be, unsupervised. I admit I'm a bit slack about my back yard but I don't leave her there when I'm not home.
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    the web site for the place we are considering is Gu ard Dog Tra ining | Ob edience Tr aining | Bo arding Ken nels | Dog s for Sale

    we are trained with her, on the last day. They say they dont use fear or pain etc. They just do it 7 days a week and know what they are doing. What I am trying to establish is whether this is true or not.

    We wont be deliberatly leaving her anywhere where she might get baited nor do i expect everything to be fail safe but it would be good if she didnt gobble any morsel that was thrown even closly in her direction for her own safety.

    We are trying to make sure this dog does not become too much for us and had always intended to do this with whichever dog we got. Whether we use this place or not is up for debate.
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    I dont know if i would be comfortable sending my dog anywhere where they wouldnt allow you to stay and watch though. have they said you are able to witness the training?

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    I have two stories for this actually.

    A friend of a friend had a GS and sent her away to one of those, apparently she was having alot of trouble with barking and on walks. Came back and Never had trouble since. So she told my friend who was having alot of trouble with her dog.

    She has a Great dane and being she was only 5 foot nothing next to this dog she looked tiny. Anyway, she was having alot of troubles on walks and with him jumping on people and just being generally rough. She sent him away to one of those places, cost her about the same except I could have swore it was two weeks. Whatever, yeah so he came back, was fantastic on his walks, calmed down heaps. About a week after she got him home she went to feed him, as she lent down to put the bowl on the floor he latched onto her head and practically took the skin off her skull. About 300 stitches later..

    He was put to sleep..
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    Just to note after about a month after getting out of hospital she bought another Great dane! I thought it was very Brave of her!
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    I'm going to jassada training down in Brisbane to get my cert 3 in dog handling, thought I'd take the pooch with kebabs get her trained up as well as me while I am there, I couldn't let her be trained whilebi wasn't there.

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    Thanks guys. We have done some googling and found some not very nice reports so we think we will give it a miss. There is one on the central coast which looks good. Hubby will give them a ring tomorrow. Unfortunatley there is no one locally that does this kind of thing and we want to prevent what will be a large dominating dog from getting out of hand and for that we feel we need expert help; to make sure we do it right. She is a gorgeous dog and besides the usual puppy stuff (shoes, STARVING all the time despite 3 good meals a day etc) she is great.

    Failing that there is a nice looking place on the Gold coast, where we will be going on holidays to in NOV - the K 9 c en tre - which also looks good BUT she will be 9 months old by then and we are afraid that might mean more stuff to be UNDONE.

    Opinions??

    Thanks for your help. appreciated.
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