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    The prong collars that are legal in australia have flat tabs on the prongs, like fingers, not spikes. I have seen dogs try to lunge wearing one, and their neck remained intact not damaged.

    I see it like a tool, similar to a head halter, the aim should be to control the dog enough to train the behaviour you want, and then wean the dog off the need to be wearing it. Following Susan Garrett's methods for head halter - should take around a month.

    I 100% disagree with what those words that dog fanatic posted say.

    Sometimes when a puppy has not been raised correctly - or has had some trauma through no fault of its own or its owners - a prong collar can be a very useful training tool to train what you want the dog to do - as opposed to punishing it with yank and crank on choke collars. Or just not taking it for walks at all because nobody can control it.

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    Agree, Hyac, but just one slight difference;

    Why wean off the collar? Is it necessary? A choke or flat collar is considered appropriate neckwear to put on a dog to attach a leash to for life. Why not a prong? Once the dog has learned the appropriate behavior (ie do not lunge or pull on leash) the prong becomes nothing more than just another collar- like a martingale as it has limited slip. You can even cease to use the martingale element of the collar by clipping both rings together so there is no pinch.

    I haven't got an issue either way; but I agree entirely that training MUST accompany the tool- or the tool is useless.

    DogFanatic; I've looked at your pictures and site- as far as I am aware, there is no proof existing that correct use of a PP collar causes any of the injuries shown.

    Victoria is the only place, worldwide (!!!) that bans the PP collar- WORLDWIDE! Believe me, ANY tool can be used stupidly and injure a dog, why don't you put your voices and power into educating people about responsible dog ownership as opposed to using propaganda and shock tactics to 'convert' people to your 'cause'?

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    i use a Martingale Collar with Chain Loop i got more control over daisy and the day we sold her she was on her best bahave siting wen told all the training i did with her
    it the best coller i used and i will use it agan it a good one it the best one i have tryed love at first use
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Fanatic View Post

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ban-t...17063751647946

    The images speak for themselves...
    Looks like collar necrosis to me. I've seen worse caused by flat collars. Perhaps you should do some more research before posting such clear propaganda?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smeagle View Post
    Looks like collar necrosis to me. I've seen worse caused by flat collars. Perhaps you should do some more research before posting such clear propaganda?
    Yes, I have to agree. One does show marks that appear to be caused by soemthing at regualr intervals irritating the neck region, but it may have been anything. Th epictures also show a reaction or burn?? from an electric collar.
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    Why wean off the collar? Is it necessary?
    Why keep it on if you don't need it anymore. A nice flat collar is usually lighter. Also if you want to do competition - prong collars and front attach harnesses are usually not allowed.

    I admit I can stop my dog, no matter what, when I need to - if she's on lead. But she's not as big as a doberman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Why keep it on if you don't need it anymore. A nice flat collar is usually lighter. Also if you want to do competition - prong collars and front attach harnesses are usually not allowed.

    I admit I can stop my dog, no matter what, when I need to - if she's on lead. But she's not as big as a doberman.
    Good point, for sure. My dogs do wear flat collars for obedience and agility without hassles. It's only on public walks (outside the state of Victoria, of course!!!) that I continue to use the PP.

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    I am using a Gentle Leader and I have found it to be wonderful. Axel walks with it but can't wait to get it of when we get back home. I have full control of him and even when we meet other dogs. Owners that we walk past so he is so friendly and not a viscious bone on him. He just wants to be friendly. What is a prong? Haven't heard of that one. I have heard of the harness but didn't like that for walking. "=Vets all recomend the Gentle Leader for large strong dogs.

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    I have tried a head halter did not like them at all. Don't like the fact of it being all around his head and closing his mouth a bit. Gentle Leader definitely alot more friendly

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    A gentle leader is a head halter - there are different forms of them.

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