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Thread: My Pei Can't Make It Through the Night Without Soiling the Carpet!

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    Default My Pei Can't Make It Through the Night Without Soiling the Carpet!

    So my 18 month old Pei, my partner and I have just moved into a rental apartment with a small outdoor space, and suddenly she (the Pei, that is!) seems unable to survive the night without a toilet break.

    If she sleeps in the bedroom then this means interrupted sleep as she tends to get up, shake herself off and make other horrible doggie noises for a minute before bolting to the loo (sometimes she's quiet though), but if she sleeps in her crate we just get to wake up to a wet patch on the carpet..

    Also, she's used to the back door always being open at the old house, but now we're in the apartment this isn't practical (otherwise the cold breeze would flow right into the loungeroom), so while she may briefly go to the door during the day when she needs the loo, she'll give up pretty quickly and use the carpet.

    Any ideas what we can do about this - particularly the first problem - before the apartment starts smelling like a dog's toilet? The night issue is very frustrating, whether it's interrupted sleep or the carpet wet patches.

    Being a rental, it'll be extremely unlikely they'd let us install a doggie door in the door.

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    It is possible you could install your own door and then put the old one back when you move.

    Cleanup - use bicarb, vinegar and water - never bleach.

    I think you're going to have to start toilet training as if from scratch. Have a word for "go potty" when you take her outside and give her loads of praise and maybe a couple of treats when she goes where you want.

    You may also need to manage her food and water before bed time. Ie no food after 6:30pm if you go to bed at 10:30pm (with a potty break for her 30 mins after dinner and again immediately before bed - for as long as it takes to get something, and loads of praise when she does). And maybe no water after 6:30pm either but that would be a last resort.

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    I can't tell from your post if your dog is going to the toilet inside her crate or not, but you might want to consider closing the door to the crate - so she can't get out to toilet. Most dogs are very reluctant to soil their own bed - if they do, maybe a trip to the vet for a check up is in order.

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    Does she actually go outside at your new house? Is it possible to just open the dog a jar so that she can fit through but it minimises the cold (and hold it there with perhaps a chair or something)?

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    You need to keep her contained somewhere. Is the ktichen tiled? Whilst it may not be as cosy as the bedroom, tiles will be a far better solution than carpet.

    Look at baby gates or closing doors. We use a baby containment system which is made up of panels that click together. I put it up every night and dismantle it each morning. It takes all of 2 seconds and it ensures that my Pugs are right next to the dog door in their beds, so if they need to go during the neight they go out the dog door.

    You have already said you can't have a dog door, but if your dog was kept on tiles, then you could lay down paper each night. At least it is contained and easy to clean up. Sometimes, you cannot fight a small or weak bladder and there is simply no use stressing yourself and your dog.
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    It's not a case of a small bladder though, because in our old place she could make it through the night.

    Last night she went twice in the house. Good idea on containing her in a tiled area - we have a cage for her, and we can position that across the kitchen door.

    While we could leave the back door open, we prefer not to for security purposes.

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    If she is normally able to hold, and now can't, I would be checking her for a urinary tract or bladder problem.

    One of the first symptoms of an UTI is inapropriate toileting and increased frequency of urination. I have had rescue dogs come in that have had long standing low grade UTIs. Once the UTI is cleared, the problems resolve easily.

    I have a Pug bitch that came to me as a rescue a couple of years ago that I have kept. She has had bladder surgery twice to remove stones. She had frequent and recurring UTIs and the first symptom I noticed was her toileting inside when she normally didn't.

    Perhaps you should have your dog checked over first (take a urine sample with you if you can) and if this is clear then work on behaviour modification.
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    Her routines, security, knowledge of her surroundings, etc have all been changed. Back to basics, I think.

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    I think it would be a good idea to take her to the vet to rule out any medical issues. Shar Pei are very clean so it is unusual for them to mess in the house. Even when my girl was a baby she didn't go in the house.

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    Is your back door a sliding door?
    If so, instead of installing a dog door into your door, you could probably try buying a doggy door that you can insert into your door temporarily, if this makes sense. We have one, it's basically a glass panel that you can insert in your doorway, so that the sliding door clicks into it, instead of the doorway. The glass panel has a doggy door built into it, at the bottom. I personally find this works very well, and you can always remove it, and it's quite safe, if you install it properly. You can buy them at petshops, but I find bunnings sell the same ones for a lower price.
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    Well, we've been able to teach her the 'go toilet' command, which is helping a lot.

    Also, while she sleeps in our room during the night, if she needs to go outside she'll wake up and make a lot of noise flapping around.

    Aside from that she still isn't too great at letting us know - we're staying in another person's house temporarily, and she peed and pooped on the floor here without letting me know that she needed to go out.

    So looks like that's still the challenge - figuring out how to get her to give us a clear signal to go outside, rather than just running around and hoping :P

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