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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    I'm a moderator, I assure you im not wanting a 'reaction'.
    I simply said I disagree about the statements you and another member said, and I got a snappy response in which I would usually disreguard, but couldn't let it go.
    Please elaborate... I certainly have not made any snappy remarks to anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimbastaff View Post
    Not sure what you mean by this... infact I am not trying to rule out help, but give the correct advice... Sorry but its a fact that the same methods you might use for a border collie are not adequate in this situation... I have owned quite a few staffords and they are all very different in tempermant... but they are all still staffords and all have the same ability to injure their play alone is enough to injure some dogs... they are rough tough dogs...

    To say that Breed means nothing shows only ignorance... try getting a stafford to round up a heard of sheep and see what the outcome is...
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    I still don't see what you think is snappy in that response its the truth... in fact I cannot see where you have actually offered any advice to the original poster all your posts seem to be having a go at me or my advice...

    If you can give your suggestions for help perhaps we can all learn from your experiences..

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    I asked some questions. Its hard to give a knowledgable answer with missing information.
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    The main difference I see with Bully breeds like Staffords as compared to other breeds is their ability to hold.
    Most breeds will bite... Hard, but they then let go and perhaps go for another bite.
    Staffies HOLD and SHAKE causing a lot mare damage then a simple bite ever could. Puncture wounds heal much easier than torn flesh.

    There are other breeds that HOLD such as the Great Dane, much larger and with a bigger bite force in comparison, the difference is, they ONLY hold, they do not shake, they are pre-programed to do as little damage as possible to their prey. Staffies on the other hand, are programmed to rip and tear it apart.

    Breed does play a big part with dog aggression.

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    I own 3 staffords 1 bitch 12 yrs, 2 males 11yrs and 3 yrs, both older dogs are desexed. I cannot keep all 3 loose together, I am lucky as I have a dog run built in my yard so I can seperate them. My young dog is out in the morning, then crated, and the older dogs are out in the afternoon, until bed time, then the younger is let out again. I have been doing this for near on 2 years now, and it works for all concerned. I tried having them out together after the first fight, but it lasted all of a week, and once two are fighting the third will join in. Sometimes you just have to admit that some dogs personalities are different and that they are not going to get along, it is something you have to be aware of with staffords. These dogs lived happily together for 12 to 18 months, I bred them, I raised them, so I know they were raised right. I for one would never keep 2 staffords together unsupervised, it is a recipe for disaster. As for painting staffords in a bad light, that is not so, it is something you have to know and tell any one who is contemplating keep more than 1 stafford at a time. Most staffords wont start a fight but they sure as hell will finish it.

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    I was just about to say what DS said.. & i am saying this in respect to the SBT & not defaming them what so ever.

    "Most staffords wont start a fight but they sure as hell will finish it."

    & sadly it wont be a nice ending for other animal either..

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    This would be one case where I think breeding for show is a good thing and excluding dogs that fight. Ie selecting the dogs that don't pick or "finish" fights for breeding is a good thing for these breeds.

    Meanwhile that doesn't help the OP. I think he needs to keep his dogs separated when he's not around, and manage them when he is so that they understand that to please him, they play nice with each other.

    There is one slightly food obsessed prone to resource guarding old SBT desexed bitch that walks at my park. I walk with an ACDx and loads of treats. SBT learned very quickly to share treats with everybody or she and the other dogs get nothing. And that was definitely not how she started out, and she's so much better now, happy to share.

    So training can help but it takes a while. And I wouldn't be confident about leaving the dogs alone together once they'd had a fight, even one that did no obvious damage - because fights escalate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddhy View Post
    I think what they're saying is SBTs, and most bull breeds, are capable of doing far more damage than most other breeds if a fight does occur.
    Thanks. As an owner of big "bully" breeds, I'm well aware of the damage they have the potential to inflict. But, to simply say that, "It's an SBT--it's in the nature of the breed" can be a good piece of information, or, it can be a cop out.

    Saying, they're SBTs and should never be trusted together is a cop out. If you're going to own two, then you need to also learn what's causing the fights, and then learn how to prevent it from happening, other than just separating them.

    I have a bully breed that doesn't like to fight, but certainly doesn't like to be picked on, and you'd better run if you try picking on me Does that mean I lock him up and make sure he's never picked on at the dog park, or that I don't let him be around me in social settings, because someone might pick on me? No. It means I learn his cues, and stop the escalation, before he gets worked up enough to the point where he could do damage. I also have a sighthound that just loves possums. Should I lock her up every night, in case a possum wanders in the yard, or do I teach her not to chase wildlife? It's no different here.

    The effort I put into making sure my dogs don't fight with each other or other dogs is no different with the 60kg mastiff than it is with a JRT.

    Sure, supervise the dogs. But, just to say, "They're staffies--they'll never get along", in my opinion, is a cop out, without first putting in ALL the effort to keep them from fighting. The first step is desexing, IMO, which probably could have been done earlier.

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    Saying, they're SBTs and should never be trusted together is a cop out. If you're going to own two, then you need to also learn what's causing the fights, and then learn how to prevent it from happening, other than just separating them.

    Sure, supervise the dogs. But, just to say, "They're staffies--they'll never get along", in my opinion, is a cop out, without first putting in ALL the effort to keep them from fighting. The first step is desexing, IMO, which probably could have been done earlier.
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    Where did anyone say "Theyre staffies they will never get along"

    Some dogs just dont like each other full stop, my dogs get on fine with other dogs, they socialise, but I would never have them off lead where there are other dogs, because I know if anything happens my dog will get the blame, I would rather separate my dogs than end up with dead dogs in my yard. And no I wouldnt trust them together alone, sometimes the signs are so subtle that we mere mortals dont see them, another reason to supervise so you dont end up with dead or injured dogs or god forbid bitten yourself trying to separate them.

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