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    Quote Originally Posted by Minibulls mum View Post
    However, once trained for basics and that should not take long, you ought to be able to use a bit of string! if you still need a prong after a few weeks training get better advise from a good trainer.
    I have prong collars and hardly ever use them, also use chokers but can control on a flat collar once a dog is trained, or indeed no collar at all 8>)
    Well yes, under normal circumstances. I doubt a piece of string would do any good at all in a high drive dog in active competition. But at that point, you'd be relying on your relationship with your dog and psychological factors anyway.

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    i have 2 rotties and we were told to use check chain on them from puppy school. i found walking them was ok but they would pull and kind of got used to it. when we saw another dog they would jump up as if i was a feather on the end of the lead and it was impossible for me to safely control one of them

    someone reccomended a gentle leader and i have never looked back i can walk the two of them in one hand and they just cannot pull.
    i tried halti but harley just chewed through it, so worth paying that bit more

    hope that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glitter009 View Post
    I've never seen that type of harness. Sounds like it's different from the traditional harness which actually encourages pulling. Abby doesn't pull though, so it's not an issue.

    I've just ordered the martingale collars from K9 Pro for both of our pups. Thanks for the suggestion though.
    I have only just come across the new harness too. we use the normal harness for tracking and we also draft with our dogs, so the normal harness means pull to my dogs.

    Martingale collars are very popular at our obedience club
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    LoL @ Glitter009

    Just because I link a website - doesn't make it mine. I have been to a Steve Courtney (K9pro) seminar in Adelaide and I am impressed with his skills, especially with aggressive dogs (mine isn't), and he demonstrated a prong collar with an aggressive dog and produced an amazing change in just one short session. And he never once reefed on the dog's neck or hurt it or made it yelp or anything nasty.
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    Be interested, Glitter, to see what you think of the Martingale. I like the concept of yhem very much, but have found with my Dobes that they are ineffective if you have a scenario where an excited dog might potentially pull you over/ down. I use a collar cover on my PP's... Steve at K9Pro also sells these. It likely won't give you an alternative at Ob Club, but out and about elsewhere.... Maybe. I think my Dobe- Villain- is still modelling the PP cover on Steve's site

    Of course, as I live in Victoria the nanny state, I must say that I never ever use my PP's in Vic- I drive 10 hours to cross the border into NSW to go walkies!!!!!!

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    I thought prongs were only illegal in Victoria??

    ETA: We aren't allowed to use them at our obedience club because any Dogs QLD/ ANKC affiliated club are not permitted to use prongs or e-collars. Maybe that is what they were referring to when they said it was illegal? (in that instance - it's not illegal at all, just not permitted under their governing body)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glitter009 View Post
    "More and more trainers around the world use plain flat collars for training and use more positive reinforcement and less corrections, so i don't see why is it necessary to use either choke or prong collars."
    LOL ... I have no clue if that's accurate, but I see more and more poorly behaved dogs these days. But yes, since prong collars are illegal here I'm leaning towards using a flat collar.
    More and more means exactly that, I didn't say everyone I am for instance against the use of prong/choke collars, but don't worry, I won't judge you, it's just my opinion. I was simply replying to your post

    No I wasn't referring to horse martingale (I used to horseride as well) as it is completely different. I do not like seeing horse wearing martingale or even a bit or shoes, and I don't even like horseriding any more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    LoL @ Glitter009

    Just because I link a website - doesn't make it mine. I have been to a Steve Courtney seminar (K9pro) seminar in Adelaide and I am impressed with his skills, especially with aggressive dogs (mine isn't), and he demonstrated a prong collar with an aggressive dog and produced an amazing change in just one short session. And he never once reefed on the dog's neck or hurt it or made it yelp or anything nasty.
    Oops ... I must have read your post wrong. I thought I saw "our website." Nonetheless, thanks for the suggestion!

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    I went back and checked...

    I will have to send email to k9pro and point out what happens to their page titles when we link them here... that's where the "our" came from. I've gone back and edited a couple of the link names to fix it.

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    Tonight I took Abby out on a walk with her new martingale collar. She's nowhere near as responsive as with the prong collar, but I guess that is to be expected. The thing that really surprised me though is that the martingale collar seems to scare her, though the prong collar never did. She really doesn't like when the chain part zips against itself during a correction, it definitely scared her a bit. I'm hoping that she'll get used to it as we continue to use it on walks and in obedience class. I felt bad for her because it seemed like she was a bit on edge and nervous, which is very unlike her. We've got obedience class at the dog club tomorrow so I'm looking forward to hearing what their thoughts on i.

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