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    Hi Curly girl

    I hope you praised Geoff lots for paying more attention to you than the grumpy dog.

    I think if it had been me, aond someone was crossing the lights with an out of control dog, I would have waited until the next light change to cross, and backed my dog into the biggest space on my side so that we could stay well clear of out of control dog.

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    Hi Hyacinth,

    I obviously did not make myself clear. We were at the crossing first, and were minding our own business.

    The 'mean' dog is question came from the opposite direction, and was standing on the other side of a cyclist who was also waiting.

    The reason I thought they were having problems with the dog is that it was hauling them along the footpath coming to the crossing. It wasn't barking or growling, in fact I don't think it saw us as it was too busy pulling on it's lead.

    We started at the crossing next to the cyclist, who went quicker than us, and when he was gone the other dog lunged. It was unexpected and there was about 2 m between us and them.

    Of course I praised Geoff (for about 50m), and he got a piece of cheese for being such a gallant and sensible young man.

    Regards

    Curly Girl

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    CG; Ya know, I reckon you and Geoff are doing just mighty good. Virtual treats to you both :-)

    I decided to jump in because you got me thinking about Ob club. I run Ob classes on Sundays.... The class goes for an hour which is alright for the humans but waaaaaaay too long for the dogs. Often I have wished that we had 'demo' robot dogs for the humans to practice on (as we all know Ob club is to train the handler!!!) then each could go home and teach his/her own dog at home in an area free of distractions (a MUST for the 'teaching' phase)... The dogs just get over it. Geoff did admirably to make it for 20 mins.

    My rule of thumb with training is 'keep it short'. There's a principle called the 'Yerkes-Dodson Law' which, although generally used for stress, also applies for learning.... That is, in basic form, keep going too long and the dog switches off will equal disadvantage to training progress. The ideal is to keep it short and sweet and leave the dog wanting more!!! It's hard enough to achieve in private, impossible in a training class!

    So well done for recognizing Geoff's peak had passed and stopping. It may have been even better to stop maybe 5 minutes sooner, even, but at least you did not go into disadvantage territory. (Besides, I do understand Ob lessons cost money!!)

    Best of luck- Airedales are incredibly independent thinkers, lol.

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    Susan Garrett talks about "balance breaks" every 2 to 3 minutes when training a dog, and then objected to us students wanting one every couple of hours, sigh. She usually does tug with her dogs for "balance breaks" but it would have to be something the dog enjoys.

    I agree with V&F, Curly Girl, you're doing great.

    I don't quite understand about where the two dogs were in your description of the road crossing. I was thinking you were crossing towards each other from opposite sides of the road, but even if you were crossing from the same side of the road - I would not have gone out onto a road with cars on it if there was an "out of control" dog there too. Doesn't help that my own dog freaks out at busy roads and it takes a lot of work for me to get her across at all let alone deal with a potential dog fight as well or the trauma it would add to my already traumatised dog. And no - I have no idea why it freaks her out - noise and movement maybe - she's always been like that.

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    Thank you V&F and Hyacinth. We are trying hard.

    Unfortunately Hyacinth, I live in the Northern Beaches of Sydney. We get the tradie traffic in full force from about 5.45am. My walk goes around a lake, but we have to cross the main road to get back home - 6 busy lanes of traffic.

    To his credit, Geoff is always dignified and steady with traffic. Not street smart, as in he will just walk onto the road if he smells something, without considering the 15 cars thundering towards us, but always calm. When he first arrived from the country we used to go and sit at the bus stop for a while, just sitting watching the cars, trucks, buses and motor bikes. After a while it all got a bit boring and we could go for a walk without much fuss.

    This week we are practicing our come-fore (sp??) and a pivot turn. We can do both, but he just doesn't prance along next to me watching my every move like the poodles in class. He does his own thing in tandem with me if that makes sense.

    That's my boy.

    curly Girl

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