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    Thanks so much Hyacinth.

    I have ordered an Advanced Tug so that is a bit exciting. I will check out Dogwise for the DVD later today. I also think I will get Ruff Love which is another SG book. I read an extract and I think I will get a lot out of it. I think Crazy Dog was right and I need to rethink the relationship I have with him when we are trying to work. I need to put in a bit of fun (although I'm not sure how yet)

    We went for a walk this morning with our sensible on. Still tried to bail up the rabbits, but I just stopped, said look at that, waited till he glanced at me (stupid crazy lady its a rabbit), clicked him and kept walking. He followed me with some encouragement to get his treat. We didn't have any off lead time today which was sad, but I really don't trust him near roads right now.

    And if I may ask a stupid question, how often should I be playing tug with him. Everytime we go for a walk? when we are just hanging around the house?

    Many thanks

    Curly Girl.

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    Interesting topic though Im going to left hand down for a sec. Sorry CG.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    2. 10 months is doggy adolescence (ie ignore owners when they think they have more important things to do) Dog Growth Cycles in terms of Temperament
    Was very interested to read this and very disappointed that it doesn't say (unless I've skipped over it) when a dogs sense of smell starts or if they are born being able to use their nose. It is a very crucial sense IMO and the way I think they would explore before eyes and ears work, Isn't that how they locate teats too?
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    Ruff Love is essentially a very tight detailed NILIF program - eg Nothing in Life is free. There is a description of that on the K9pro website and other places.

    If you're not prepared to put a halti on your dog for a while every time you take him for a walk and keep him on lead for quite some time (at least a month?), and put him in a crate (that you've trained him to be pleased to be in) for any time you're not working with him, then - its instructions are not going to help you.

    Having said all that, I have read it, and it is enlightening and I do use bits of it, and of course my dog is not completely obedient because she gets "reinforcement" from other places besides me. Because I let her. I have scored about 8 baseballs because I let her.

    Kristin

    Not sure how sense of smell relates to temperment directly. But you could email K9pro and ask. There are other websites that include a similar (approx) age vs temperment descriptions so maybe it would be there. Do come and post a link if you find a better one. That one is just easy for me to find in a hurry.

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    Once again Hyacinth you are a wonderful source of information. I try and use a NILF view of the world, but there are 4 other people at home and the kids especially just like to play with him. And to be fair, he is very good at it. Still a bit sharky, but getting better.

    I have ordered the DVD, so that can be my homework, and for fun I have ordered the tug thing anyway. Now if I could just get him interested in a ball....

    Dog club won't start up for another 6 weeks, so I will have to come up with some fun ideas to keep him interested and on the right track. Any good resources you could suggest?

    cheers

    Curly Girl

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    You might want to try "Shaping Success" before you start "Ruff Love", because I think the techniques SG uses in there might suit you better. Loads of positive re-inforcement and working up to distractions and training games etc.

    The tug thing and even the NILIF thing can be done with loads of kids around... sort of.

    The ball thing is not that important, though a ball can be made more interesting if you stuff it in a hockey sock and then tie the hockey sock to a piece of string (and maybe stick some food in the sock with the ball...). And run round the back yard with it (kids can help).

    When you do start dog club, aim to be there early and practice everything he knows as the distractions (other dogs arriving) increase.

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    I was in an obedience club for a little while when Hamish was young and had problems with him switching off as well. For three hours we would just be standing and sitting and he got really bored. I found smaller shorter classes were better and keeping him interested and learning more. Something you may want to consider if Geoff is still getting too bored.

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    Hi Cat,

    It's funny you say that....

    Yesterday was our first day back after the Christmas break. It was really hot, really really hot. For the 1st 20 minutes, Geoff was killing it. Really engaged and having a bit of fun. Then he switched off. He had had enough so we thanked the instructor and just went for a walk around the grounds waiting for the class to end, so we could have a play with the other dogs.

    I think he just has a low boredom threshold, and I'm not skilful enough to keep him in the game.

    But I have to keep reminding myself of all the progress we have made.

    He comes when he is called about 90% of the time (even at the dog park), he sits, he waits at the door to go out, he will down most of the time, we can do short stays, he can LLW provided there aren't any rabbits about, all good.

    Regards

    Curly Girl

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    Curly for a aloof breed that likes to think for them self your going great & are far ahead of me & my TM teen.
    I know others may say recall is no good till it's 99.9% obtainable but I'd be so pleased with 90%even in the extra stressful situations if I was you at this stage.
    Keep it up & you 2 will be stars before you know it. I think leaving when he's had enough was a good idea & just try & up the time he will listen for as you go.
    Dogs make everyday life enjoyable...........

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    I don't think it is you. Everything I have read on airdales says you need to keep training short and interesting. It's them.

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    Thank you CD and Cat.

    I think sometimes you have to take a step back and look at what you CAN do.

    This morning we were walking about 6.00. Geoff was sort of sniffing around and we came to some lights at a crossing. He sat and waited. Along came a big black and tan dog that had a halti and a collar and the lady and gentleman walking him were obviously having problems controlling the dog. The lights changed so we started crossing and the dog lunged at Geoff, growling and snapping. He got a bit of a fright, but kept close to me, looked back at the dog, then looked at me. You could almost hear him saying 'what was all that about' and then we continued on our merry way.

    He has his own personality and I think my goal has to be to embrace that personality and learn to work as a team.

    Any suggestions from your accumulated wisdom on the ways to do that will as always be most appreciated.

    cheers

    Curly Girl.

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