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    I find it's nearly always the harder trains that end up being the best dogs in long run.
    Dogs make everyday life enjoyable...........

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    Also just to note with the "alpha roll" unless it is done with absolute calm energy it is done incorrectly. I can imagine that anyone putting a dog in a submissive position with anger, tension, worry ect is going to produce a negative reaction in that dog. Honestly, a lot of the dogs I see Caesar "alpha roll" seem to genuinely calm down and relax at the end of the exercise.

    I completely agree with Caesar in that nearly all dog problems are actually human problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristin View Post
    Also just to note with the "alpha roll" unless it is done with absolute calm energy it is done incorrectly. I can imagine that anyone putting a dog in a submissive position with anger, tension, worry ect is going to produce a negative reaction in that dog. Honestly, a lot of the dogs I see Caesar "alpha roll" seem to genuinely calm down and relax at the end of the exercise.

    I completely agree with Caesar in that nearly all dog problems are actually human problems.
    Very true words it's the energy behind the action that matters most.
    Dogs make everyday life enjoyable...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristin View Post
    Honestly, a lot of the dogs I see Caesar "alpha roll" seem to genuinely calm down and relax at the end of the exercise.
    In all honesty, they've given up, they're not relaxed. To the audience they seem relaxed but they really have just given up.
    Respect and you shall be respected. Animal is always right.

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    Giving up is exsaclty what I am aiming for in some dogs like the dog in my example a few posts back. He would fight me over every little thing I tried to do & I think the reason it did work in his case was because he learnt it wasn't his given right to take whatever he wanted when ever he wanted it.
    He was not an aggressive dog per say just used his size & strengh to intimadate & push poeple & other dogs or pets around. He was overly sure of himself also so I knew it would not be an overpowering situation to put him in but it would be a useless tatic with a nervous or fearful dog.
    Like I've said numerous times it isn't a training tool I'd use without much thought & really is only affective in a small number of cases but it deffently is part of my tool box of methods when rehabbing a difficult case. It also is totally useless when done with aggressive attitude & when the timing isn't spot on but I think that is the same with any training.
    I am determind to catch my technic on camara next time the need arises to show you how I do it & how settled the dog becomes. I do not beleive in any of this head tapping or shaking buisness & think it's unneccery as your point is already made.
    Dogs make everyday life enjoyable...........

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    Learning heaps from this discussion.

    Everyone's methods, interpretation & opinions are a tad different, yet very informative.
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