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    Another well said Hya .

    Cole we used to have a lovely member who actually trained/worked there for years and from what I've heard there is no way in hell a dog I knew would get anywhere near the place.
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    S: What your asking for is entirely possible, but it may not be desirable for many reasons.

    Owning a dog with these capabilities is both an asset and a liability. You would have to really need the asset to want to cover the liability.

    It is very much like owning a gun, it requires special handling skills, maintenance and storage, if you have the real need and understand these requirements, then it might be the right decision for you.

    It would be unlikely that your family pet would be suitable (not impossible) so you may need a specialized dog for this purpose.

    Personally, this would not be a situation that I would recommend you obtain a dog from a board and train type facility, as I firmly believe that the handler really needs as much training as the dog (sometimes more).

    Whomever you decide to get a dog and training through, research them thoroughly and get peoples opinions that have used them before for the same purpose.

    Think it over well...
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    Has anyone visited the website

    After a week obedience training and passing they are then tested again to see if they are suitable to continue further training.

    Once training complete I spend a day with trainer and dog to go over commands

    The dog will live with us for 12 months before doing training. It isn't as though I'm introducing a new dog to the house

    Would love to hear from trainers on here and maybe if they can give me price or match price for same work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coley_83 View Post
    Has anyone visited the website

    After a week obedience training and passing they are then tested again to see if they are suitable to continue further training.

    Once training complete I spend a day with trainer and dog to go over commands

    The dog will live with us for 12 months before doing training. It isn't as though I'm introducing a new dog to the house

    Would love to hear from trainers on here and maybe if they can give me price or match price for same work
    I spent hrs on the site & as I said it gave me the heeby geebies.
    You have just heard from 1 very good trainer, look up his website(K9force).
    And I may not be accreidited but have done loads of rehab on aggressive dogs & own both livestock & farm guardains that I train myself. I have also trained guardains for others.
    We are ALL saying it's not just the dog who needs trained, you do too & probley more than the dog. 1days training 4 the owner is just bull****.........
    I would hope no one here is willing to put you in control of a loaded weapon with 1 days training & to be honest no amount of training will do really for what you want.

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    Coley, I had a look at the site, and it gave me the heebies, too I am sorry to say. As someone here who regularly associates with trainers who do train guard and protection dogs, I must reiterate what everyone else here has very wisely said; that is a) you must start with a dog who is genetically programmed for this type of work, b) that the training should be done with you and a qualified trainer in partnership, and c) owning a dog trained to attack is a HUGE liability for you. And I add: protection trained dogs need to work regularly for continued training, reliability and mental welfare. You cannot just send the dog away, have it trained, then do one days' training yourself and consider the job done!! Most dogs will quite naturally guard their 'pack' or family to an extent that is appropriate for family life. Any more is likely to bring you a whole new set of considerations.

    I highly recommend reading over the excellent advice already given, check out the K9Pro website, read some of the articles there and maybe even ring Steve for a chat. I could also direct you privately to others for second and third opinions if you like, but they would likely concur.

    Honestly, an alarm system, gate locks and supervision for kids are potentially as effective, less risky, cheaper and you don't have to feed it or walk it or work it or pick up its poo. Just my opinion.

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    Even though I don't know much about guard dog training, the other members know what they're talking about and i'd seriously take in what they're saying. I think you need to consider training your dog, with you, and not just send the dog away and expect a completely different dog back in return.

    I just wanted to add that i'd never trust a website who tries to get your money by having pictures of celebrities on their main page and is proud that they were on any current affairs program (anything on those programs is either naming and shaming, promoting questionable products, or "help out this unfortunate person"). Nothing reputable is ever on those shows.

    And their "Dogs for Sale" section supports the vibe that they just want money. I don't understand why the majority of their dogs aren't even desexed (you would think that the last thing you want a guard dog doing is escaping and running after a girl in heat).

    Definitely reconsider sending your dog there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coley_83 View Post
    100% guarantee
    Hahaha there is NO SUCH THING as 100 % guarantee. Again, you are not buying Tamaguchi, it is a living, breathing THINKING creature. Stuff them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coley_83 View Post
    If a dog can protect kids playing in a yard and prevent a possible abduction in this perfect world we live in, isn't guard training money well spent
    Ok, but there's a catch here. You have a family dog that's been trained for protection. Your kid's friends come for a b'day party, they play and scream and run around and your dog thinks your kids are being attacked and it attacks one of your kids friends. Any dog can do it, those that are trained to do so even more so. Get a security guard or alarm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedra View Post
    Ok, but there's a catch here. You have a family dog that's been trained for protection. Your kid's friends come for a b'day party, they play and scream and run around and your dog thinks your kids are being attacked and it attacks one of your kids friends. Any dog can do it, those that are trained to do so even more so. Get a security guard or alarm.
    More catches; this is a dog who you won't ever be able to kennel (except maybe back at this place) if you need to go somewhere the dog can't, this is a dog who you will never be able to have someone else feed/ perform basic care for in an emergency, this is a dog who will require (depending on your council, of course) a fully fenced, roofed run outside as it is likely to require special registration, a dog who won't be able to be inside unless tethered, crated or isolated somehow if your kids have a sleepover, a dog who cant go with the kids to a sleepover (statistically higher risk than sleeping at home), a dog that kids shouldn't really be required to (or allowed to) feed, walk, play with, train except under supervision..... The list goes on and on.

    Take lots of time to think this through before you decide 
    Last edited by Villain & Flirtt; 12-24-2010 at 01:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Villain & Flirtt View Post
    More catches; this is a dog who you won't ever be able to kennel (except maybe back at this place) if you need to go somewhere the dog can't, this is a dog who you will never be able to have someone else feed/ perform basic care for in an emergency, this is a dog who will require (depending on your council, of course) a fully fenced, roofed run outside as it is likely to require special registration, a dog who won't be able to be inside unless tethered, crated or isolated somehow if your kids have a sleepover, a dog who cant go with the kids to a sleepover (statistically higher risk than sleeping at home), a dog that kids shouldn't really be required to (or allowed to) feed, walk, play with, train except under supervision..... The list goes on and on.

    Take lots of time to think this through before you decide 
    All very true...........
    A true protection dog trusts & works for 1 person & although that 1 persons admitant family(wife/kids)can be around the dog they can not help if dog is hurt etc.....
    It will cost you as much in dangerous dog fenecing as training nearly........
    Better off the just go with the exspensive fence in the first place & forget the dog.........

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