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    Default Help with Growling Dog, Turns into Fights

    Hello all

    I adopted Neddie(jack russell x Australian terrier) a couple of months ago. He is 3 years old and fantastic except for one fault. He doesn't get on with other dogs very well. Out on walks he pulls towards them, but if I can we turn and go the other way and he is getting better at this. But when they get close together he growls like I'm boss, but with tail wagging. If they growl back it starts turning into a fight and I pull him out. If the other dog is more submissive it isn't a problem as the other dog doesn't growl back and neddie sniffs happily. I'm at a loss how to stop him from growling at every dog and after last dog when an off lead dog came up to us, I was scared neddie would get hurt.

    I'm located in Adelaide and happy to pay for help as it is embarrassing, stressful and neddie will probably get hurt.

    Sorry for the essay, buy does anyone have advice or know of good dog trainers in Adelaide? I was going to go to dog obedience, but closed til feb.

    I appreciate any help as it is ruining our outings...

    Thank you
    Kristy

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    Hi

    Are you at a obediance or dog club? Its not just for learning, but for socialising with all dogs of different sizes, ages and breeds.
    I suggest you start there
    They help with dog aggressive dogs, and as I said, maybe Neddie can learn to socialise. I mean after all, he would have passed his temperament test, which means its a behaviour he's learned.
    Good luck!
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    Have you talked to the people you adopted him off? They may have some advice for & know the dog better.
    I would also start looking for a trainer.
    Is it only on the lead? Is he desexed[I am hoping so]? Dose he get any social interaction with other dogs at all? Can you get a freind involved that has a dog that he can get along with for play dates at a nutural place?

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    crazydog, Neddie was from the RSPCA.
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    oh good so diffently desexed & should have passed a temp test.

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    Hi aussiemyf7, I went to dog obedience twice, but then decided to change to my local one, but they are all closed over xmas, from Nov to Feb, long period... guess might come quickly. He is such a frienly non aggressive dog around people, and even with othrer dogs his tail is wagging whilst he is growling sometimes, so he is sending mixed signals to me and the other dog. Maybe fear?

    I'm not sure if the RSPCA can help with this or not? Should I give them a call?

    My mum has a golden retriever and after the initial growling/snapping they are fine, but only because Mum's dog leaves him alone. If Mum's dog gets too close they start fighting again... We have been through this with a few other people as well, and normally after the initial growling snapping, I'm boss thing, they will get on ok, if the other dog is relaxed. Especially if the other dog doesn't growl back...

    Sorry for so much information this is the first dog I have owned and am trying to do the right thing for me and for him.

    Thanks crazydog and aussiemyf7...

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    So is he the same at obediance too?
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    Yes. The instructors always told us to stay separated. Also one told me to use slip chain and yank hard when he started growling, but didn't work, made him worse, so I started distracting with food, which works little better. Doesn't pull for as long towards other dogs in the distance now

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    S: Obedience clubs aren't really the right place to try and tackle aggression, there is probably too much stimulation there for your dog to focus on and you may actually be making matters worse.

    Also the instructors have a class to deal with and it would be hard on them trying to juggle a behavior problem add to this that the people there with their dogs may not appreciate an aggressive dog in their class, it cant be easy for you either.

    I would recommend that you look into a behaviorist near you, I believe Mark Singer from Canine Training may be able to help you, he is in Adelaide.
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    If he was a dog that needed working on to pass his behavour then he would have had 2 worker/trainers that would know him well at RSPCA but I am not sure if they would pass on their info. Worth a try I would think though.
    Sounds like domanite fear triggered aggression. Which will take some work & time to fix but usally very fixable. I would really advise a good trainer though as I could tell you what to do but may have it all wrong as I have not seen the behavour for myself.

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