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    Quote Originally Posted by crazydog View Post
    I only walk my dogs on leads in town & out at the farm it is just when training or with new dogs, so I see no problem not walking dogs that can exercise themselves & do a little rabbit hunting to kept the brain ticing.
    It is all the dogs stuck in yards they can not see out of & never hardley ever get out that really sucks.
    Totally agree.

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    I have a friend who rescues.
    She used to be in the corporate world then she left it to pursue her love and do rescue and dog minding in her own home.
    A couple of her rescues are so damaged.
    I have been to stay with her and my admiration for her dedication abounds.

    One so damaged dog who would probably have been put to sleep long ago has his own room. He comes out from there when he feels safe.
    Another is always on a verl long untangletable tether. This one loves the security. She can be a total escape artist when afraid. This woman somehow manages her dogs, rescues and boarders. I think her best total in the busiest time has been 17 dogs.
    I have witnessed how they integrate and how they are managed with pens, an inside and an outside yard. I think there were about 8 there when I last visited.
    She takes every dog on it's own merits. They somehow bumble along so well or I really think it is the vibes there. The love and care.
    I am in awe.
    All have their needs met.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Di_dee1 View Post
    I have a friend who rescues.
    She used to be in the corporate world then she left it to pursue her love and do rescue and dog minding in her own home.
    A couple of her rescues are so damaged.
    I have been to stay with her and my admiration for her dedication abounds.

    One so damaged dog who would probably have been put to sleep long ago has his own room. He comes out from there when he feels safe.
    Another is always on a verl long untangletable tether. This one loves the security. She can be a total escape artist when afraid. This woman somehow manages her dogs, rescues and boarders. I think her best total in the busiest time has been 17 dogs.
    I have witnessed how they integrate and how they are managed with pens, an inside and an outside yard. I think there were about 8 there when I last visited.
    She takes every dog on it's own merits. They somehow bumble along so well or I really think it is the vibes there. The love and care.
    I am in awe.
    All have their needs met.
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    Indeed she sounds like a saint!!!
    I have my own stable pack of 8 & take on no more than 3 rescues at a time. Sometimes I like to just work with 1 if the particular dog needs it. I also have 2 at my parents farm that I work with a lot & any of the guardain breed rescues start off at the farm.
    My pack are very stable but I find if I have too many different rescues with issues at 1 time it can take it's toll on them.So anyone that can do what she is doing I think are saints.......Sometimes when you have several different dogs with different behavour problems they sort of feed of each others issues & it can get hard to target what is really going on with each dog.
    So to have so many with such large problems would be very hard work, god bless her..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazydog View Post
    Play is VERY important & that is why the wrong play worries me so.
    What is WRONG play? There is no such thing as wrong play. There is only a matter to teach your dog manners - not to bite too hard or at all, when to stop etc... And learning yourself when to stop.
    Respect and you shall be respected. Animal is always right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedra View Post
    What is WRONG play? There is no such thing as wrong play. There is only a matter to teach your dog manners - not to bite too hard or at all, when to stop etc... And learning yourself when to stop.
    Yes I find you can play wrongly with a dog & have seen it many times. Dogs learn alot through play & if they are learning it is OK to jump up, bit & nip at hands & clothes & to knock poeple off their feet to me this is wrong play. Play is all powerful for teaching dogs so ofcourse you can play the wrong way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazydog View Post
    Yes I find you can play wrongly with a dog & have seen it many times. Dogs learn alot through play & if they are learning it is OK to jump up, bit & nip at hands & clothes & to knock poeple off their feet to me this is wrong play. Play is all powerful for teaching dogs so ofcourse you can play the wrong way.
    Yeah OK, you're right there. I was looking from personal point of view where I wouldn't allow such things. As much as you can teach good things through play you can also teach bad ones if you are inxperienced person who is not aware of certain things and their consequences. So sorry about that comment.
    Respect and you shall be respected. Animal is always right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedra View Post
    Yeah OK, you're right there. I was looking from personal point of view where I wouldn't allow such things. As much as you can teach good things through play you can also teach bad ones if you are inxperienced person who is not aware of certain things and their consequences. So sorry about that comment.
    no worries

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bordeaux View Post
    That makes sence.
    Given Griffens size I've been very carefull to make sure he knows his boundarys. Of cause my smaller dog does to but I know if I played the same way with her she would get over excited and nip and thats not on.

    I play rough with both my dogs (Dobes) as a part of their training. Their motivational play training reward is a big, bad, boisterous game of tug which involves the whole body. When teeth come into play (even if accidentally), the game stops immediately, but it's fast, rough and I'm always panting and sweating when we're done- and my dogs LOVE hearing the command "training!". I even let them win- quite often in fact. And yet, I am often complimented on my dogs' quite obvious respect for me because I run my pack like a pack... and I even think my dogs are happier and better mannered for it.

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    I don't think "energetic" is the same as "rough" ie how hard do you contact your dogs when you pat them? I make sure that when I touch my dog it's no harder than I want her to touch me (with her teeth) - that's what I mean about not playing rough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikole.957 View Post
    I play rough with both my dogs (Dobes) as a part of their training. Their motivational play training reward is a big, bad, boisterous game of tug which involves the whole body. When teeth come into play (even if accidentally), the game stops immediately, but it's fast, rough and I'm always panting and sweating when we're done- and my dogs LOVE hearing the command "training!". I even let them win- quite often in fact. And yet, I am often complimented on my dogs' quite obvious respect for me because I run my pack like a pack... and I even think my dogs are happier and better mannered for it.
    Well as long as the game is played by your rules not these, always ended by you winning & this isn't the only training they get with an owner that is the boss probley wouldn't cause any problem in my beliefs. For most dogs that is their is some it would not work for though.
    But the same type of play with young large dogs with very little other training & defintly no professional training & an owner who is not the Boss & you have problems brewing in my book. Also a lot of these type of owners have no idea when the dog is disresepting in other ways or if the dogs personality is suitable for this sort of play.
    I worry when I hear this sort of play advised to owners without even knowing a thing about the dog or owners past exsperainces. Not all dog & owner partnerships are equeal.

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