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    Now I am older I don't engage in rough house behaviour with these three (all are under 2 years of age) I love having the 3 as they engage in this between themselves. I love watching them in the pen in the mornings going nuts with their racing zoomies. One may cheat and cut off a corner then roughousing hell breaks loose. They love it. They line up again and off they go.
    Hubby and kids used to now and then rough house play with our now deceased blue heeler ( RIP2007) and the BCx (RIP 2002.) This was only done outside and was stopped if over excitement happened.
    It was stopped if hard mouthing or general over the top behaviour happened with either human or animal. The dogs or kids ( late teenagers then) or hubby were told to SETTLE then after that occurred they came inside to gentler times and the BCx who preferred to be outside had some peace too.
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    Crazy dog, its great that you are of the opinion that it is "each to their own". Thats how it should be. However, from your previous postings that isnt the attitude that has been coming across. Your attitude has been that of "that way is WRONG".

    I don't really care whether a forum "expert" think their way is right and my way is wrong. We raise happy healthy dogs and have been doing so for a long time.

    I would perhaps suggest though that you read what is IN the post, not imaginary subtext invented by yourself to prove a point. Nowhere has anyone said they rough house with their dogs in place of exercise (FYI, we cycle with our dogs). My posts to me have clearly indicated there are boundarys with the play we allow, whether I wasnt clear enough or you just chose to ignore...Idk.

    I'll accept that you weren't targeting me, although understandably it appeared that way due to the fact that your responses for all my posts were that I was "very silly" and "needed more dog knowledge" yet others posting similar to me were "treating dogs as individuals" and even "if that works for oyu that's great".

    By the way, you didn't offend me at all. I don't mind a bit of argy bargy at all so have been quite happily posting with (against) you about this topic LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lala View Post
    Crazy dog, its great that you are of the opinion that it is "each to their own". Thats how it should be. However, from your previous postings that isnt the attitude that has been coming across. Your attitude has been that of "that way is WRONG".

    I don't really care whether a forum "expert" think their way is right and my way is wrong. We raise happy healthy dogs and have been doing so for a long time.

    I would perhaps suggest though that you read what is IN the post, not imaginary subtext invented by yourself to prove a point. Nowhere has anyone said they rough house with their dogs in place of exercise (FYI, we cycle with our dogs). My posts to me have clearly indicated there are boundarys with the play we allow, whether I wasnt clear enough or you just chose to ignore...Idk.

    I'll accept that you weren't targeting me, although understandably it appeared that way due to the fact that your responses for all my posts were that I was "very silly" and "needed more dog knowledge" yet others posting similar to me were "treating dogs as individuals" and even "if that works for oyu that's great".

    By the way, you didn't offend me at all. I don't mind a bit of argy bargy at all so have been quite happily posting with (against) you about this topic LOL
    Why dose it have to be against me?
    I answered others saying I did not agree with there methods not just you. I may have come across strongly to you but you where the 1 who laughed at my opinions & show very littel interest in anothers veiw.
    I never said it was your post that said rough play was instead of exercise & training but if you read through this whole forum you may see how I have come to this. I do think what you do is wrong but that dose not mean I dislike you or think it can not work for you most of the time. Just because I beleive each to their own dose not mean I will not say what I think. It just means at the end of the day it dose not mean we can not get along exsept ofcourse if I in insult you so badily with my say it how I feel it attidude.
    I think there are a lot more poeple out there than are willing to admitt that hardley ever walk there dogs & make themselves feel better about it by spending time in rough play with their dog & thinking that is just as good. Also I think there are more dogs that are interacting in rough & having different behavour probs than people are willing to admitt or some do not even reconize that they are becoming domainte & lack respect for anyones personal space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazydog View Post
    Why dose it have to be against me?
    I answered others saying I did not agree with there methods not just you. I may have come across strongly to you but you where the 1 who laughed at my opinions & show very littel interest in anothers veiw.
    I never said it was your post that said rough play was instead of exercise & training but if you read through this whole forum you may see how I have come to this. I do think what you do is wrong but that dose not mean I dislike you or think it can not work for you most of the time. Just because I beleive each to their own dose not mean I will not say what I think. It just means at the end of the day it dose not mean we can not get along exsept ofcourse if I in insult you so badily with my say it how I feel it attidude.
    I think there are a lot more poeple out there than are willing to admitt that hardley ever walk there dogs & make themselves feel better about it by spending time in rough play with their dog & thinking that is just as good. Also I think there are more dogs that are interacting in rough & having different behavour probs than people are willing to admitt or some do not even reconize that they are becoming domainte & lack respect for anyones personal space.

    Against as in of different views...was taking the mickey

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    I don't walk my dogs. Never have and never will as they manage to run themselves ragged in the pen or individually when out for a pee.
    When 2 are put in the pen on dark with their bones and the one who will be inside for the night has their's freely outside they also do races. The two inside race the one outside on well worn tracks they have made. The ones inside cheat as the one outside has to follow the fence lines so they have to go further, lol.
    Lately they have been bringing back rabbits they have caught when outside singularly. (not happy but there are so many of them now. They are dead by the time I see they have them and usually mostly eaten but I would rescue them if I could as I am a softy)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Di_dee1 View Post
    I don't walk my dogs. Never have and never will as they manage to run themselves ragged in the pen or individually when out for a pee.
    When 2 are put in the pen on dark with their bones and the one who will be inside for the night has their's freely outside they also do races. The two inside race the one outside on well worn tracks they have made. The ones inside cheat as the one outside has to follow the fence lines so they have to go further, lol.
    Lately they have been bringing back rabbits they have caught when outside singularly. (not happy but there are so many of them now. They are dead by the time I see they have them and usually mostly eaten but I would rescue them if I could as I am a softy)
    we dont walk ours either...we are lazy.

    We all get on our bikes (me man and kid) and take em for a fast bike ride (about a half hour) LOL. Wears Barney out for the whole night though Pippi could go for hours it seems, not sure how on those tiny lil legs

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    I do admit though that if I lived in a town or suburb I would not have the breed that I do as I realise their needs would not be compatible with my family's in that situation.
    I made a big mistake 30 years ago when not taking a dog's needs into consideration.
    That dog was rehomed to a much better situation and I learned from it.

    It is of paramount importance to marry a dog's needs with the family...it's makeup, time available or lack of it when choosing a breed or a rescue mutt for your situation.

    There was no internet then and things were so much a situation of learning on the job.

    It pains me when I read of people so far out of their depth with a breed of dog who needs far more than they are prepared to give whether it be grooming, exercise or time to integrate them well. There is now so much information out there if they only took the trouble to research.

    I know my own limitations well so I choose to suit us.
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    Di,
    Sounds like they are getting stimulation with their rabbit catching, lol. I had a cat that had to always bring you home 1/2 ate animals. I find walking[especaily with a few dogs] to be a great bonding tool with new or abused dogs. I also use our walks as a way to deal with any issues a dog may be having & find I have a much better chance of getting through to them after a good walk. I have a street close by with very vocal aggresive dogs & walk down it to teach dogs to ignore other dogs & keep their focus on me.
    Lala,
    A bike ride is 1 of the best walks there is. My TM Pearl loves to take hubby & the bike for a pull at break neck speed. I use bikes & on the farm I use the ute if I have a dog I am not game to let run free yet, hand out window with lead in hand & off you go,lol.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Di_dee1 View Post
    I do admit though that if I lived in a town or suburb I would not have the breed that I do as I realise their needs would not be compatible with my family's in that situation.
    I made a big mistake 30 years ago when not taking a dog's needs into consideration.
    That dog was rehomed to a much better situation and I learned from it.

    It is of paramount importance to marry a dog's needs with the family...it's makeup, time available or lack of it when choosing a breed or a rescue mutt for your situation.

    There was no internet then and things were so much a situation of learning on the job.

    It pains me when I read of people so far out of their depth with a breed of dog who needs far more than they are prepared to give whether it be grooming, exercise or time to integrate them well.

    I know my own limitations well so I choose to suit us.
    I only walk my dogs on leads in town & out at the farm it is just when training or with new dogs, so I see no problem not walking dogs that can exercise themselves & do a little rabbit hunting to kept the brain ticing.
    It is all the dogs stuck in yards they can not see out of & never hardley ever get out that really sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazydog View Post
    Di,
    Sounds like they are getting stimulation with their rabbit catching, lol. I had a cat that had to always bring you home 1/2 ate animals. I find walking[especaily with a few dogs] to be a great bonding tool with new or abused dogs. I also use our walks as a way to deal with any issues a dog may be having & find I have a much better chance of getting through to them after a good walk. I have a street close by with very vocal aggresive dogs & walk down it to teach dogs to ignore other dogs & keep their focus on me.
    Lala,
    A bike ride is 1 of the best walks there is. My TM Pearl loves to take hubby & the bike for a pull at break neck speed. I use bikes & on the farm I use the ute if I have a dog I am not game to let run free yet, hand out window with lead in hand & off you go,lol.......
    Yep we love our bike rides. Barney (being big) goes with the OH...and trots along side until the other half makes that kss kss kss sdound and then Barney pulls ahead and races along towing the OH.

    Our daughter follows behind on her bike. The Pippi and I bring up the rear on another one of my daughters bikes (yes it is embarrassing when I am seen but easier on a small bike with a small dog). Pippi loves it and always pulls me along at the start (usually has me in fits of laughter). She can really fly on those little legs of hers. We do usually start lagging behind a bit as short legs get tired quik (and recover even quicker) so sometimes I carry her for a bit if shes gettign tired.

    LOL at the ute with the arm out the window. We used to take Chevy and Lennox (both RIP) down to the river and let em chase the car (most of my friends were horried at this) and they abosultely loved it. Especially Lennox who was a boxer/staffy and very fast. Then when we got Barney, he came along with Chevy (lennox had already passed) and he loved it too. That was back in NZ though and its a bit hard to find a river where you can run your dogs like that in the middle of Sydney. Not to mention the fact that Pippi is too small for that sort of business anyway LOL

    It was quite funny too as we would get to the river and there were always at least 5 or 6 other dogs doing the same thing - chasing their owners cars LOL

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