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    Just wondering what ppl's thought are on the training collar?

    Candy has "selective hearing"...-learned it from my kids!! LOL
    All I do is yell and she loves to ignore me. I do use food treats..but there comes a time when she should know better!

    (maybe I should get one for the kids!!..hehehe )
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    E-collars are not legal for use in Australia. You would need to check with your state legislation as to whether vets there can prescribe them. Any discussion of their effectiveness before you find out if they are legal would be moot.

    If you yelled at me, I would ignore you too btw.

    Have you tried:
    1. walking the other way
    2. lying on the ground
    3. pretending you have the best thing EVER in your hands
    4. working on a long light lead
    5. working with a hungry dog

    ?

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    Hi Ozeymum

    A little zapper for the kids sounds nice, esspecially certain times of the day! I have often thought of a remote controled one! Lol!!! OH dear

    There is crucial training associated and in some states these collars are illegal.

    You are in the best hands with Steve believe me and there is lots of info on the site.

    Nic xx
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy View Post
    Hi Ozeymum

    A little zapper for the kids sounds nice, esspecially certain times of the day! I have often thought of a remote controled one! Lol!!! OH dear

    In regards to dear little Candy check out this site K9 Force Professional Dog Training & Behaviour Consultancy

    There is crucial training associated and in some states these collars are illegal.

    You are in the best hands with Steve believe me and there is lots of info on the site.

    Nic xx
    Thanks for this link...I have just been reading through it...it's great
    I've just read about the use of the halti....I am now going to stop using it and persivere(sp?) with the half check chain....and work on my arm flab..umm, muscles..LOL

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    This is a good read regarding the topic.....

    http://www.k9force.net/index.html?ro...otecollar.html
    Last edited by Occy; 03-22-2009 at 01:16 AM. Reason: Article removed. Copyright material. Have included the link instead.

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    Why are you trying to convince anyone here? I have used e-collars and will not comment on them either way as they are illegal. Please check the prevention of cruelty to animals act 1986 (amendments).

    These are the laws in Victoria
    http://www.dpi.vic.gov.au/DPI/nrenfa.nsf/LinkView/13FD529000AA3517CA2575200070203F18CDE14E012AB3A0CA 2573FA000E0AC8/$file/Factsheet%201%20-%20Electronic%20collars%20-%20remote%20training%20and%20anti-bark.pdf

    I would suggest they are similar if not the same in QLD. You need to go see your vet to have the collar prescribed. You cannot buy one from ebay unless it meets the Australian specifications.

    You want this to be quick and easy - it is not. Forget the cruelty aspects (though Billy for someone who thinks PETA are a-ok I am surprised you would be a proponent of such things - interesting) and think simply of the legal aspects

    YOU - or ANYONE ELSE - cannot use a collar unless it is
    1. a certified collar
    2. a vet approves your dog as suitable for such a collar

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    Oh with respect, cut it out Occy, why make it personal?

    I do not and have not ever supported PETA! so lets get that out of the way.

    I DO admire their clout in terms of educating the public and raising awareness of the plight of deathrow pets and this is what we so need in Australia...YESTERDAY! What are you going to do arrest me?

    Steve at k9 force is a greatly respected trainer and behaviourist of large breeds in particular. He also works with marked aggression and the worst of the worst.

    Steve works/trains RAAF dogs and the Police Force amongst many others, his methods are not something to be dismissed so soon! He is also booked out for a minimum of 2 months, even at a push, so clearly he is not that bad!!!

    Have you even bothered to look at his site/methods? I would suggest you read "the triangle of tempation" it is a brilliant training method and i use it religously here.

    Nic

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    With "respect" Billy you assume a lot. I am more than familiar with his work and that of many others. However, this thread is not about spruking for trainers. I know a number of trainers in QLD who could assist WITHOUT need for an e collar, or tying a dog up. People go with what works for them.

    I notice you live in the same area as him, so I assume you have been out to see his facilities and have used him to train your dogs. Would be more impressive if you talked about your successes instead of giving a staccato impersonation of a resume (I too can say I work with the RAAF and police, and large breeds - in fact ONLY large breeds, AND with aggression WOW). However, it isn't my job and I don't need to sell myself, and why you would need to sell someone who is already booked so far ahead I just can't fathom.

    I would have thought TOT was a training tool not a lifestyle adjustment. But that is for another thread.
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    I am not spruking for k9force. I am not spruking ecollars either.

    I have offered a link to a site where ecollars are used at times by a very experienced trainer. The site also has some great training methods and info.

    Simple as that! I am not a qualified trainer or behavourist. Why on earth would i do anything else other than offer a link to a site?

    k9force also have weekend workshops, where you are able to take your dog with you, which is a great affordable way to seek some profesional training and advice. Everything from aggression to dog handling courses are available during the year.

    I am all for education and support for dog owners, if you are aware of anything more appropriate perhaps you should state it.

    Nic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy View Post


    I am all for education and support for dog owners, if you are aware of anything more appropriate perhaps you should state it.

    Nic
    Thanks Nic, and you ARE very helpful...much appretiated

    Occy...sorry, but your attitude on this site switches my "ears off" from listening to you.

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