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    Default Help! Any Ideas! On when Dog Gives Up when Walking

    Hi there.

    We have a 5 month old Rottie Munta.

    Problem is when we walk to school of a morning on the way back home he stops and just gives up and wont walk anymore. He is totally fine on the way there but as soon as we turn around to come home he does NOT want to walk anymore, he lays down and wont move. or if he is moving it's VERY slow..

    It has happened three times now and i have just about given up walking him with us to school.
    i Think it might be because my two boys are now at school and he doesn't want to leave them. i have a 6 and an 8 yr old, who he adores.

    Any ideas on what i can do.

    Do i just keep walking hoping he will get the idea that we have to leave them and we will come back for the boys. I had to get a friend to pick us up as we were still a fair way from home and i had given him a good 20mins but NO, still wouldn't move.... lol

    Thanks Guys

    Danielle

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    What I would do is take along some treats. When he slows down or is about to stop (or just when he stops if he gives no warning) give him some commands. Any command he's learned (assuming he knows atleast one, like sit or something). Keep telling him a few commands and give a reward, then move on. (Use the commands, otherwise he'll think that when he stops he gets treats, and then do stop more often)

    Or... Do you walk him in the mornings and afternoons? If you only walk in the mornings then maybe you could switch that walk to the afternoon so he can still be with you kids. Although it's probably not the best thing for him to be that crazy about the kids. It's good for him to love them, but it could develop into territorial issues etc.

    Anyway sorry if I don't make sense. I'm a bit tired...

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    How long is a walk to school and back? Do you just walk straight there and bask as soon as boys go in or do you do more walking?
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    hi Guys and thanks for your replies,
    Although he does love the boys he is not territorial towards them one bit. it's the only thing i can think of why he doesn't want to walk anymore. i don't know if it's because he can't see them and is wondering where did they go.. i don't know.

    It is 2.5km to school and then that again back home, i'm just assuming it's not "too" far for him to be walking as he is only a puppy, and a big one at that and also we have done it many times before of an evening by myself when i walk him..

    Of a morning we will walk there and then i send the kids through the gate say good bye and turn around and come home again, well try to come home. It's about a good 30 mins walk to and from. i have started parking half way, but i will try it of a afternoon once all this rain stops and see how he goes then, but yeah i'm thinking no morning just an arvo walk from now on . lol

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    Could you try getting the boys to go around the corner of school and then come back and then go and then come back maybe? Or turn around and walk back 20 metres with the boys and then back to the school etc. Or have the boys stop a bit before you get to the gate and keep walking without them, and then catch up or walk back to them?

    Ie is Munta happy to walk as long as the boys are there, or doesn't want to go when they're not?

    Most herding dogs want their herd to stay together and somehow you've got to teach him, it's ok for the herd to be in separate paddocks.

    When the boys go, they need to make no fuss at all. Ie no cuddles, pats and big fussy good byes or hellos when they come back. Hold off for about five minutes and then they can lay it on. And it may help for them to have a word when they're going - eg "seeya" or "bye" so Munta learns when he's not coming too.

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    When we do walk to school the boys are always riding their bikes so they are always ahead of Munta and Myself anyway. My eldest doesn't even say good bye to me,.lol he's already in school by the time we get to the gate. Ethan my 6 yr old does the quick Bye Munta and then walks off.

    He Quite Happily Walks with "NO" Problems everytime we go for walks, it's just those school days in the morning.

    Thanks SO much for your replies.

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    Hmm on having a second read...

    Might be too far for a big boned puppy like a rotti. I did obedience school with one. We tried tiring it out so it wouldn't vomit in the car on the way home, it would have been between 4 and 6 months old to be in puppy class. Anyway the owner wouldn't walk it more than ten minutes at a time. And I think we got about half a km down the bike track and had to turn around so 1km all up.

    Check with your dog's breeder or with the Rottweiler club in your state. Vague rule of thumb is 5 minutes for each month of age - so 25 minutes for a normal 5mo puppy but maybe less for a Rottweiler?

    You might be able to get around this by having a 10 or 20 minute rest at school before you return?

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    My guess is 5 kms all in one go is just way too much for a 5 month old Rottie especially if it is hard surfaces, and especially if you do it again in the evening. Rotties are high risk for elbow and hip dysplasia so I wouldnt be pushing him., I would let him dictate how much is too much. Allow his bones and joints to mature and grow. I think you need to listen to what your dog is telling you.

    Even with my Border collies and other herdings dogs I dont take them on long walks for the first 6 months of their lives. Having been through the trauma of an elbow dysplastic dog and a young dog with bilateral cruciate problems, I am pretty careful these days when they are babies.

    The period of growth before 6 months is the critical period, when their hip and elbow joints are sorting themselves out and going through various growth spurts with precision gowing and setting. Their growth plates are also active for a great deal longer.
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    Thanks for that Kalacreek.

    We don't do the 5kms in the morning and arvo everyday, mostly we drive halfway morning and arvo. so it's only about 2. But thanks heaps for that info, Obidience trainer said it was ok for the both amounts of walking. As a new owner i want only best for him. I do not push him at all, i do let him tell me when enough is enough. So if in the morning he does start to slow down i wont take him in the arvo. i take it a day at a time and see how he goes each time to see if he will do more the same day, But thank you again for you reply.

    Cheers

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    The obedience trainer might not know. Ask the *breeder* or rottweiler club in your state.

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