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    I am trying to stop Mowie barking at the fence but I am finding it hard, he will not take treats out of anyone's hands (due to previous training not to take food from my four children). When he barks and I distract him tell him 'Enough' then praise with pats and happy voice, he keeps coming to the door and barks more for my attention.

    We had our annual trip to the vet yesterday and she kept trying to give him treats, nothing he wouldn't even pick it up when dropped on the table. This is when she suggested clicker training.

    So I am here to ask...

    Can anyone please explain clicker training to me?

    Also recommend a good brand of clicker.

    Another thing is Mowie is being de-sexed next week (I really don't want puppies running around now we have a female and a male) should I wait to start the clicker training until after that?


    I also must say sorry for all these posts that most must think are stupid but I am trying to do the best for my dogs.


    Rissa

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    Hi Rissa,

    I recently received 7 Day Free Clicker training Try this link: Clicker training

    You can also try Karen Pryor website: Free membership

    I have two clickers One is purchased via ebay (about $7) the other one is from one dollar shop but it was $2.00 . I don't think they make any difference for dogs, but the one from ebay has sharper sound
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    Hi Rissa,

    Karen Pryor's "Don't Shoot the Dog" book is a really nice introduction to the concept and application of clicker training. It's available on the Karen Pryor website (google Karen Pryor) or through many booksellers in Aus.

    Basically the clicker is a way of marking (or bridging) a behaviour. You can use just about anything that makes a noise to mark, but the clicker is nice because it is (depending on your timing) instant, and removes many extraneous factors (like your intonation- one day you may be happy, the next grumpy and even if you hide it.... your dog knows anyway!!). I have two clickers also- the cleaper one's sound is a bit mushy, but my dog's know which click means which dog.

    You basically condition the clicker to mean reward (click... treat... click... treat) until the dog reliably responds to the click as meaning..... treat! Then you command the behaviour (or begin teaching it), click to mark, then release and treat (or play or reward, whichever you use). Or you can command #1, click, command #2, click, release...... If I've mangled this explanation, anyone, feel free to correct me!!!

    I've found it is a really nice method for teaching tricks and basic "manners" moves to my dogs as long as you start with low distraction and slowly train through higher distraction levels. That said, my dogs have had some commands that the clicker has not been useful for- but that's entirely another story.

    Hope that helped,
    Jo

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    Oh, and BTW- you can start this as soon as you've got a handle on how it works. Even when your MOwie is recuperating, you can still train- just maybe not jumping hurdles, lol :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MowieandRissa View Post
    I am trying to stop Mowie barking at the fence but I am finding it hard, he will not take treats out of anyone's hands (due to previous training not to take food from my four children). When he barks and I distract him tell him 'Enough' then praise with pats and happy voice, he keeps coming to the door and barks more for my attention.

    We had our annual trip to the vet yesterday and she kept trying to give him treats, nothing he wouldn't even pick it up when dropped on the table. This is when she suggested clicker training.

    So I am here to ask...

    Can anyone please explain clicker training to me?

    Also recommend a good brand of clicker.

    Another thing is Mowie is being de-sexed next week (I really don't want puppies running around now we have a female and a male) should I wait to start the clicker training until after that?


    I also must say sorry for all these posts that most must think are stupid but I am trying to do the best for my dogs.


    Rissa
    S: There is also another thing to consider, a dog that will not take treats in certain situations is often highly stressed, it might be a good idea to look into that side of things too.
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    I once trained my dog to refuse food. Believing it would be a preventative for potential burglars silencing our dog alarm with food.
    In the 14 yrs he lived, i was never able to 'undo' this training.
    His food refusal was not a result of stress, it was the result of deliberate training.
    Maybe your hound too?
    Clicker training starts with 'charging' the clicker, getting dog to make the link, click = treat. Your recouperating dog can lay down, and be taught this. Easy.
    And the free sight is a good one. There are many free dog training opportunities online. At least with clicker training, you cant make some of the mistakes easily made with other training methods.
    Enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bernie View Post
    I once trained my dog to refuse food. Believing it would be a preventative for potential burglars silencing our dog alarm with food.
    In the 14 yrs he lived, i was never able to 'undo' this training.
    His food refusal was not a result of stress, it was the result of deliberate training.
    Maybe your hound too?
    Clicker training starts with 'charging' the clicker, getting dog to make the link, click = treat. Your recouperating dog can lay down, and be taught this. Easy.
    And the free sight is a good one. There are many free dog training opportunities online. At least with clicker training, you cant make some of the mistakes easily made with other training methods.
    Enjoy!
    Hi Bernie,

    How did you train your dog to refuse food? You know minis-he will eat my arms if desperate...vaccum gut...After my cat died suddenly, i really want my pets to accept food from us only, but never CONSISTENTLY and seriously train the dogs. Can you let me know?
    I love cooking but I love eating even more.

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